Prescriptions

[Anonymous]

I believe one of my cockerels has Mycoplasma Gallisepticum, is there anywhere I can get some Tylan 200 without a script or do I need to go to my vet? Thanks in advance

 

[Bertie & The Chooks]

Tylan 200 is not for poultry(it causes muscle damage and death), Tylan Soluble us used. Either way they are POM-V and all the more reason for you to speak to a vet before you start giving your animals things that are not for them... Tilmovet 250 is used and no you can not get it with out prescription it is a POM-V. Please look after your animals and don't self diagnose or medicate, it's dangerous.

p.s. I am aware of the unlicensed use of Tylan 200, but I'm also aware of the side effects and can not recommend it personally.

 

[Bertie & The Chooks]

and in future if you wish to find out more about a medicine and it's use in animals check here...http://www.noah.co.uk/

 

[E3lx]

if you think theyve got it they need to go to the vet, have a blood test and if they are positive the vet prescribes tylan soluble

 

[Chuck]

There are plenty of instances where self diagnosis is appropriate as is giving medication which you have in stock. People should not feel bulldozed into taking their birds to a vet, many of whom have no idea about poultry illnesses yet they still take a hefty fee with no refunds if their advice/ treatment is worthless. The vast majority of keepers want to and do give their birds a good quality of life.

nb: content edited by moderator Foxy

 

[Bertie & The Chooks]

Bernie and the Chooks:
There are plenty of instances where self diagnosis is appropriate as is giving medication which you have in stock. People should not feel bulldozed into taking their birds to a vet, many of whom have no idea about poultry illnesses yet they still take a hefty fee with no refunds if their advice/ treatment is worthless. The vast majority of keepers want to and do give their birds a good quality of life.

Yes, and unfortunately most of the novices that decide to self diagnose are the ones that end up with dead chickens or crying at the vets because they just gave their cat Nurophen. I worked in a vets for a very long time and I have had many animals as well with experience in and out of the vets. I don't think you're anyone to be telling anyone they need a 'reality check'... and it's BERTIE not bernie...

No one is bulldozing anyone, only suggesting they get some advice and FOLLOW THE LAW. It's is illegal to distribute or purchase a POM-V medication with out prescription. It is also very dangerous as you cannot guarantee the efficacy or the contents of the drug you have ordered.

 

[daniellesdogs]

some places that sell and breed poultry have a licance to give there own chickens some medicines ask them they may beable to help.
a vet charges £30 to see your chicken but you get there and they havent a clue unless an avian vet then they cost more.
my chickens are my pets but il put it out of its misery before spending £100 plus at the vets

 

[Tim]

Before I give my personal view, can I say that there is in general a lack of knowledge in this area for most of us and some strong views are apparent here, so please be respectful of one another in your posts.

Anyway... Personally speaking, both Tylan and Baytril have been prescribed to me in the past and if the bird is very bad, I have seen the injectable form given into the breast muscle. Victoria Roberts book on Diseases of Free Range Poultry also mentions injecting. But, all of this said, it's not up to me or any of us, it's the vet who makes the call and prescribes the best treatment!

Prescription Only Medication can as the name suggests only be obtained by prescription - but it's worth remembering that you don't have to buy it at your vets... There are online companies that will sell it cheaper.

In fairness to the vets, they often are only buying small volumes. For example, I bought a tub of Tylan Soluble some years ago for £22 / cost price at my vets (as he happens to be a friend) yet I found the same tub for £18 here on MedicAnimal.

You still need the prescription buying online but you can often get a better price.

Veterinary prices do vary but personally speaking, I don't feel a £30 consultation fee is too bad considering the years of work it takes to become a vet and then the overhead costs of running a surgery.... Then again, if I can positively identify the problem, I don't waste my money going to the vets. If I need prescription medication though, I have to go and see him.

 

[daniellesdogs]

£30 is not bad if you get help but £30 for them to look and say i havent a clue is money up in smoke
and if any one fills i was being disrespectful please exsept my apoligies some times my dyslexia restricks what im trying to say and just comes out harsh

 

[Bertie & The Chooks]

Before I give my personal view, can I say that there is in general a lack of knowledge in this area for most of us and some strong views are apparent here, so please be respectful of one another in your posts.

Anyway... Personally speaking, both Tylan and Baytril have been prescribed to me in the past and if the bird is very bad, I have seen the injectable form given into the breast muscle. Victoria Roberts book on Diseases of Free Range Poultry also mentions injecting. But, all of this said, it's not up to me or any of us, it's the vet who makes the call and prescribes the best treatment!

Prescription Only Medication can as the name suggests only be obtained by prescription - but it's worth remembering that you don't have to buy it at your vets... There are online companies that will sell it cheaper.

In fairness to the vets, they often are only buying small volumes. For example, I bought a tub of Tylan Soluble some years ago for £22 / cost price at my vets (as he happens to be a friend) yet I found the same tub for £18 here on MedicAnimal.

You still need the prescription buying online but you can often get a better price.

Veterinary prices do vary but personally speaking, I don't feel a £30 consultation fee is too bad considering the years of work it takes to become a vet and then the overhead costs of running a surgery.... Then again, if I can positively identify the problem, I don't waste my money going to the vets. If I need prescription medication though, I have to go and see him.

Thank you for your post Tim. I can concur. My point was that this could be a novice that has just a bit of information for something and possibly not all the details asking for a POM-V on an internet forum with experienced farmers/keepers.

All well an good if you have 200+ chooks like Chuck and have been at it for a while with a good repor with your vet and you can get Rx or have gotten advice previously for diagnosis and medical administration. But to give such advice and hand out details to purchase POM-V drugs to someone whom may not know as much or have such experience I find uncomfortable... that was my main point.

Times are tough, things are expensive and farming and veterinary medicine ain't cheap. But if you get a good vet and speak to them on the phone at least about your issues, they can ask the right questions to find out what's going and possibly may notice something symptom wise that you may have missed which would change one's diagnosis all together. (most vets will speak over the phone and not charge for a lot of cases it's always worth a try). Many 'pet' owners miss a lot of symptoms and tend to over focus on the ones they have heard about which usually ends up misdiagnosed and mistreated when self assessed over speaking to a veterinary surgeon, nurse or just a qualified/well established farmer with regular vet care on their farm.

 

[chrismahon]

There was an internet based vet meds company at Weston Park game fair at the weekend. Prices were half that of my vet, which I would expect as they haven't got the overheads of a vet practice and move much larger volumes so no wastage from out-of-date stuff. But I can't buy Baytril, Synulox or Frontline Spray version (spot on I can get but the dose is too high for a chicken) without a prescription from my vet. When I need the meds I need them immediately so the vet is the only option. They will let me have meds without a consultation fee though -just a free chat to one of the more chicken versed vets. We have used them for 4 years now and when we started taking our chickens there they didn't really have a clue. So its been a learning curve for all of us. I think ours give good fair value for our money and recognise that overall poultry keepers don't have bottomless pockets -particularly us.

 

[foxy]

I have had to delete a couple of posts in this thread, pointed references to other members is really not appropriate or in any case constructive. If you have any concerns I ask you to direct them please to one of the moderators, or alternatively you can report posts by clicking on the exclamation mark in the bottom right hand corner.

I would like to reiterate Tims comments on a previous thread recently and ask can we please keep this forum the friendly and informative forum that has always been.

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