Brewster
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I found this interview with an American who claims to have bred the tuxedo roux celadon line which was then smuggled into europe and is still available here now.
He says the celadon line came from one bird in a Canadian university which he received offspring from and bred them to his tuxedo roux quail to make red white and blue birds. There are lots of problems with them, thin shelled eggs and beak issues being the most common.
Most people are constantly introducing new blood to their celadon lines which hides the problems but only for a couple of generations, he suggests doing the opposite, back crossing them to the same male they came from and then hatching very large numbers to look for genetic outliers that dont carry the problem genes.
I certainly wouldn't have got them if i had known all of this but now i have them and they're very sweet natured so I'm trying to fix the ones i have with their diet, they're responding very well to additional vit d supplementation which makes me wonder if a protein was introduced to their genetics that has caused an autoimmune response, vit d deficiency is a signature symptom of autoimmune disease and is required for normal uptake of calcium so it would make sense that this could be causing their thin egg shells, beak deformity can also result from insufficient vit d.
It can take a few generations to resolve a nutritional deficiency so i won’t know if its possible to fix their health problems for a while yet but I'm going to try, if it’s a success ill post the results here, otherwise ill probably just stick with English whites as they pre date genetic editing technology so are likely none gmo/ge.
I strongly suggest anyone considering keeping celadons to watch this video first before hatching any eggs.
He says the celadon line came from one bird in a Canadian university which he received offspring from and bred them to his tuxedo roux quail to make red white and blue birds. There are lots of problems with them, thin shelled eggs and beak issues being the most common.
Most people are constantly introducing new blood to their celadon lines which hides the problems but only for a couple of generations, he suggests doing the opposite, back crossing them to the same male they came from and then hatching very large numbers to look for genetic outliers that dont carry the problem genes.
I certainly wouldn't have got them if i had known all of this but now i have them and they're very sweet natured so I'm trying to fix the ones i have with their diet, they're responding very well to additional vit d supplementation which makes me wonder if a protein was introduced to their genetics that has caused an autoimmune response, vit d deficiency is a signature symptom of autoimmune disease and is required for normal uptake of calcium so it would make sense that this could be causing their thin egg shells, beak deformity can also result from insufficient vit d.
It can take a few generations to resolve a nutritional deficiency so i won’t know if its possible to fix their health problems for a while yet but I'm going to try, if it’s a success ill post the results here, otherwise ill probably just stick with English whites as they pre date genetic editing technology so are likely none gmo/ge.
I strongly suggest anyone considering keeping celadons to watch this video first before hatching any eggs.
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