Moulting

Sue

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I have some questions for experienced keepers regarding moulding. This is my first year with poultry so haven't experienced the mould until now. I have three hens who are moulding, one is the legbar who is in with the bully, but she seems quite happy and is just losing a few feathers here and there. The other two seem to be having an extreme moult, one is a Maran and looks really strange as she has lost so many feathers in certain places that she is completely bald and as she's walking she's dripping feathers everywhere! This is quite alarming to say the least!! These are the two who had the antibiotics. They seem to have got over that illness, but are mostly just standing around sometimes with their eyes closed. They are eating ok ish, about the same as the others. All three are the same age, but I have another who is also the same age who doesn't show any signs of dropping any feathers at all. Could this be something other than a moult? Should I be doing anything other than giving them good food and a tonic in the water? I have spread a small bale of straw under their house so they have somewhere warm and dry to go during the day. What a stupid time of year to suddenly become naked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Sorry Sue that last sentence just made me... :lol:

Sue said:
What a stupid time of year to suddenly become naked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't have any helpful advice though as I'm new to this too...Good Luck! :)
 
Hi Sue, I've at least half of my girls moulting at the moment. One lady is like a leaking pillow :-)07 everywhere she goes is a trail of feathers.
I can't help with any advice as I'm new to this my-self so hope you don't mind if I follow this thread closely. I understand it's quite a normal thing for this time of year. :-)19
 
It is natural but it's also late as most would normally be finishing the moult in October. I have some very late moulters this year as well. Also some hybrids which have only been in lay for three months are moulting and they shouldn't moult at all this year ! I thought yours were this years birds ?
 
I had them in March when they were POL (actually they had already started laying - just), so they are about 12 months old. Strangely, one of them doesn't appear to be starting to moult at all and they're all the same age. My latest two are only 24 weeks old so are looking rather beautiful with a full covering of feathers. I suppose the late hot weather we had this year has affected the moult. Can you tell me if they usually feel a bit sorry for themselves when they are moulting - sitting around more than usual and looking a bit sad. I can't work out whether they are ill or just moulting!
 
We had Orpingtons started in August and a Legbar who has again just started and already lost half her feathers. She was freezing last year and will be again this year. Maggots are a good source of protein, which is what feathers mainly are. Can switch to rearers rations if none in the coop are laying because they are apparently better when moulting. I have just given all ours maggots for treats in the last three days and I swear they are feathering up twice as fast as they were before.
 
I think it is normal for birds to look miserable during a moult, particulary if it is a "hard" one...meaning they drop their clothes at an alarming rate! :shock:

I have some ladies that are really looking unhappy at the moment. I just make sure they have somewhere to go to feel comfortable, dry and out of any wind or rain.
 
As you will be picking up they vary a lot. Some seem to shut down and become inactive and others go about their business as usual. It's quite rare for them to lay more than the odd egg or two when moulting. I don't feed anything extra and don't try to rush them through the moult either, just letting them do it their way. Quite often they will put on a lot of weight during a moult which is not good for them when they start laying again which is another reason why I think it's best not to over feed them.
 
Mine stopped laying several weeks ago, even the ones who aren't moulting. There's no danger of mine been over fed and getting fat, in fact they seem to be starving themselves to death as they're hardly eating anything at all and are losing weight rapidly!! There's hardly any droppings being produced overnight, just a pile of feathers for me to pick up in the morning. They don't seem interesting in eating anything I offer them.
 
Hi Sue,
It can be most alarming seeing your birds practically oven ready! But it's a natural proccess, so try not to worry too much.
There are a few things you can do to help them through their first moult and make it a little easier on them.
Firstly, it's only like a dog moulting, only with more hair than feathers you don't notice it as much, a feather will take longer to appear than a hair.
Moulting effects all birds differently, some sail through it, others can get really miserable and seem lethargic, again, all normal. No one is the same!
Time of year is mostly effected by when the bird was hatched, the later they were hatched, the later they will moult, breed also has a part to play, hybrids sometimes don't moult for two years, they have been 'engineered' this way to produce more eggs. Some may moult from their first year.Again, normal.
Almost all birds will stop laying, and cockerels will be infertile, they can really only do one thing at a time, and should be allowed to moult, stop laying and filling eggs naturally, and not forced to do both. It takes so much out of their bodies to do either lay and moult, that they can really do just one.
Growing a new coat of feathers takes alot of protien with a feather being mostly protien (Kerotin) that it sometimes helps giving a slightly higher preotien feed such as growers pellets rather than layers. It certainly won't hurt your birds, and helps them get through it quicker, don't worry too much about them getting fat, whilst growing new feathers, all their energy will go into this rather than be stored as fat. And a small amount of extra fat going into winter won't cause any problems, it's naturally hard-wired into the bird to put on condition to see it through the harsher weather. They may prefere to eat grain rather than pellet, this too is normal, so a few handsful of mixed corn in the afternoon will fill them up and keep them warm through cold nights, also helping to provide extra protein for feather growth. Try not to feed it at the same time as their pellets, as they are a balanced feed compound and the birds will naturally pick out the corn leaving the pellets, and so make them lack other essential vitamins. But most folks feed a bit of mixed corn late PM.
Codliver oil mixed with the pellet also provides an essential oil of omega3 to make new feathers glossy, and it's a good source of vit D too helping to utilise the absorbtion of calcium, another compound of feathers.
A dry warm place is welcomed too for protection from cold wind and rain, although straw isn't ideal unless you change it regularly and don't allow it to become damp and mouldy as spores develop and cause respiritory problems.
ACV with crushed garlic or garlic powder added to the water is a great natural way of preventing snots and sneezes, it also helps birds to feather up quicker being a good source of protein and potassium.
A bit of TLC, and a few high protein treats fed sparingly won't hurt your birds at all, the key word here is 'sparingly'.
I have also had birds hatched early this year who have begun to moult, normally they don't have a full moult until their second year, most strange, but hey, chickens are very strange little creatures, and only do what they want to do!
Neck moults can happen at any time, and the normal contributer to this can be stress, moving to new homes can trigger one, or a bath getting ready for a show! (most annoying!)
Most birds moult in sections until they have replaced all their old feathers with new ones, it can take anywhere from a few weeks, to three months to complete!
Hope this has helped.
JubesXX
 
Jubes, thank you so much for your very details post. It has put my mind at rest (at bit!) My poor French Blue Maran I fear is going to end up with the only feathers she has left being on her feet!!!!! She was such a beautiful bird, it has been quite a shock, but in her many bald patches I can see the new feathers starting to emerge, so hopefully it won't take too long. I have changed the layers pellets to growers pellets. I leave the feeders with the pellets in the run all day and always have. I have also always given them a handful or two of corn late afternoon, but they don't seem to be interested in this at the moment. They have a lettuce and some broccolli hung up in their run to peck at as well. At the weekend I bought some 'total moulting solution' that is put in their drinking water. I am still worried that they aren't eating enough as I can't feel anything in their crops at all at bedtime, whereas before, they were bulging so much I didn't even need to feel them, it was obvious just from looking that they had gorged themselves all day! The food is available so I can only hope that they won't starve themselves to death. None of them appear ill in any way. The Maran and the speckled Sussex ~(the two who are moulting) do stand around a bit and look a bit unhappy, but so would I if I looked like they do at the moment! They have dry, warm, sheltered areas to go so I'm not worried about that and if they're out when it starts raining they all rush inside so at least they have some common sense! I think I'll just have to try and relax a bit and as long as they're not showing any signs of illness, to stop worrying. Easy to say, but I'm not sure I can do it!!!!!!
 
Sue, stop wittling!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Alot of birds go off their food when they're moulting, it is quite normal, they won't starve, and will resume stuffing their faces again soon. ;)
As for you, i suggest a large Gin!! :lol: ;)

JubesXX
 
jubilee said:
Sue, stop wittling!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Alot of birds go off their food when they're moulting, it is quite normal, they won't starve, and will resume stuffing their faces again soon. ;)
As for you, i suggest a large Gin!! :lol: ;)

JubesXX


two please!!! :lol: :D
 
This bar bill is going to be an expensive one! :roll: :lol:

JubesXX
 
In case you lot were wondering :-)02 ...I have split topic and moved the humour to the chatter forum. Whilst it's brilliant to have humour in a thread, we don't want to detract from some of the really useful information here! ;) :D
 
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