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I think Ive just cooked my goose on Chicken Keeping UK but snapped when someone posted about whether it was a necessary to mash sardines before feeding them to chickens. I broke (and mentioned something about puffins being under threat from surfboarding chickens.) Its really good that there are so many new chicken keepers, I was new, but I just cant take it any mooooore!!!! ... To be fair, I've learnt a lot! - the amount of experience (as in 'I am experiencing it, as well as genuine experience) is huge and makes me aware of things that you would have to keep chickens for 100 years to be aware of (and go away to research) but ... but ... I believe in not being doubting of sincerity and FB tests that to oblivion!
 
Stick with us Rick. At least if people on this forum don't know the answer to a question, they don't feel obliged to make up a load of nonsense...
 
Icemaiden said:
Stick with us Rick. At least if people on this forum don't know the answer to a question, they don't feel obliged to make up a load of nonsense...
Cheers! I think I will :) FB is really odd and I absolutely love many on it but it is weirdly skewed (!?!?! goodness knows how!)
 
I advise on a glass art forum on Facebook occasionally but there are dozens of others that I couldn't spend more than 30 seconds on because they're full of people spouting tosh. It's not just Facebook poultry forums...
 
That's why neither of us do Facebook, too many idiots with too much time on their hands
 
Well I have just learnt at pesonal cost that FB can be bad as well as mad and dangerous to know as I seem to have fallen foul of a mirror site, which looks like FB but isn't. The worst thing is I hardly ever use FB, I never post, but I do check an animal shelter and a few other things from time to time! To be fair to them, FB recognised this pretty quickly, for which I am grateful, but the hackers then got into my email, which is a whole other bad thing.

There do seem to be a glut of new keepers and like you I do sometimes have trouble remembering I was a newbie once. But I like to think I was a whole lot more responsible in terms of research and prep before I got my own birds, I can't help but worry about what will happen to all these chooks once the pandemic panic/novelty wears off.
 
We bought a book on keeping chickens, read it twice, convinced ourselves they would get every ailment going. Then got all the gear. Then entered the wonderful world of hens.
I know of someone who bought them as lockdown started, didn't really believe us when we said you need to feed them layers pellets and they need somewhere safe and secure. The fox had them in a week.
Wonder if our Guinea fowl were a lockdown impulse buy, then dumped when they realised how noisy they can be. They are quite happy here. Our neighbour separated her calves from their mums on Tuesday so they kept up a constant bellowing, to which the Guinea Fowl felt obliged to join in with.
Nessun Dorma came to mind (none shall sleep). Luckily the cows were slightly more noisy than the fowl
 
bigyetiman said:
Our neighbour separated her calves from their mums on Tuesday so they kept up a constant bellowing, to which the Guinea Fowl felt obliged to join in with.
Nessun Dorma came to mind (none shall sleep). Luckily the cows were slightly more noisy than the fowl

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Hope you're getting some sleep now.
 
Great thread. This is the only social network that I belong to. I don’t have a mobile phone for the same reason. People look at me like I’m mentally deranged. “What happens if someone dies”. My response of “well there’s very little I can do about it and I’ll find out when I get home and check my landline messages”.
It’s the etiquette of it all that irritates me. Most here would say I’m outspoken to the edge of rudeness. But one of my personal rules is that when I’m with someone I give them 100% of my attention. The TV goes off, the kettle goes on. If I’m with people who check their phone whilst in my company I immediately walk away. There is one of those proper printed signs on my front door with a red bar across a mobile phone and in words “Please turn off your mobile phone”. Sometimes people ignore it and then receive a call. “Do you mind if I take this?”. My reply of “yes I do actually so go outside” brings looks of utter disbelief especially if it a howling gale and driving rain.
I hear endless reports of the horrors of Faceache et al. I’m sure I’d be banned anyway within a month. But allegedly it’s full of armchair warriors who say things they wouldn’t dare say to your face. That would try my patience.
We all know people who take on hobbies with a complete lack of knowledge. Try caving/pot holing for that kind of idiocy. But where livestock are concerned it a whole new ballgame. Unsuitable breeds of dog is one that gets me. Terriers that chase rabbits, beagles that run off, Doberman’s that growl at visitors. What do they expect?
 
Know what you mean about FB. I am very strict with myself about just not responding to anything political, not responding to troublemakers, not responding to "know it alls", etc. I'm on one poultry page on fb. Used to be on two, but one of them just got too much. The fighting and backbiting was just insane. And one in particular who considered the final expert on chicken keeping and would give nasty, sarcastic answers to new keepers' questions. Any question that showed a lack of experience or lack of knowledge. And her own knowledge wasn't always that good, either! I did correct her advice a couple of times, but in the end, I decided I have better things to do. What gets to me is the numbers of people who start into chicken keeping by either buying day olds or hatching eggs. And then haven't a clue how to care for young chicks. I've never hatched any, because tbh, I don't have the equipment nor (frankly) the patience required for rearing chicks. And I've never kept a cockerel. But the number of people who don't even know how long eggs take to hatch, and then they get chicks that obviously have something seriously wrong, and rather than cull immediately, they break their hearts over it and try to nurse it along. And (and yes, I do understand it's very hard when your hens are pets) those who have hens who are obviously extremely ill and suffering, and dare you suggest culling it, to stop it suffering. No, they'd rather take advice from someone who "had one with the very same thing" (how do they know that??) and they took her to the vet and got whatever, and it cured it. And no matter what symptoms a sick hen is showing, there are always two immediate "diagnosis" from self proclaimed "experts": Egg bound or sour crop. Any messy bums are immediately proclaimed as "vent gleet". It all does my head in!

edited because of typos! I'm a bit distracted this morning!
 
So agree LadyA. We all have our areas of expertise. I know zero about engines, classical music or stamp collecting as examples. But I like to think I’m pretty good at genetics. But if I ever play that oneupmanship game here then please tell me.
 
Yes, FB can get very annoying. But there are some lovely groups on there. At the moment, there’s a long thread running on Whitchurch Nostalgia, which is a local closed group that collects information about the history of Whitchurch (Hants). I was a teacher at the primary school here in the 1970s and 80s and at the moment, having posted a photo of the teachers in 1973 when the old Head had retired, we are uncovering such a treasure trove of memories, photos, old reports etc from previous pupils about what school was like 40+ years ago. I’ve just found an old cassette tape of children in my Year 3 class reading stories and articles they had written as part of a collaborative writing project, and I’m trying to arrange to get it downloaded so I can edit it for people to listen to. So many memories, and so much fun and laughter, is coming out of it and I’m loving all the contacts I’m making from kids I taught so many years ago, who are now pushing 50. There’s a very warm feeling to the group; like on here, it feels as if everyone is valued and interesting, Ours is a small town with a very long history and a great community spirit that has really come to the fore in lockdown, with its own community FB group that helps people with shopping etc. People tend to stay around here when they grow up. The same family names are still found here as can be found on our memorials, church records etc, and although our town has doubled in size since we came 49 years ago, there’s still that sense of friendly interest that I noticed the very first time we stopped in the main street to buy some milk, back in 1971. I noticed then that people looked me in the eye, as if they expected to greet me, which I soon found was actually the case, quite different from living in big cities like Bath, Bristol and Hitchin, where we had been before.
 
I have a mobile phone Hen-Gen but it is strictly for my convenience and I also frustrate friends because I won't use it for anything other than texts or calls to people who don't have a landline phone. Even with the divorce dragging on there is seldom anything so urgent it can't wait until I get home. Telephone boxes are few and far between these days so if I break down I want to be able to summon help. It's great for when my gardener, who is a part time gravedigger needs to let me know he can't get here, or my friend who is on chemotherapy would like to chat - she sends a text I ring her landline because my landline package includes calls. As I need it for emergency use I also use it to contact people who don't have a landline - I have to pay to ring mobiles from my landline.

I agree about visitors. I don't have TV but when I was a teenager, the TV went off when a visitor came, and I mean OFF not just the sound turned down! My friends all know my current situation so if my landline rings I ask if they would mind me seeing who's calling - I have caller display. If it isn't my solicitor then the answerphone deals with it. It's bad enough if they ask if they can take the call but I have seen instances where visitors spend time texting or sometimes playing games when they're visiting someone. The person I have in mind wouldn't dare try that on me!

I don't often post on FB or reply unless it's not a contentious subject and I feel I really have something to add. To date I've not been on the receiving end as a result of that. I do like to "share" things I think would interest my friends or make them laugh. I only joined to keep in touch with a friend who doesn't like talking on the 'phone, texting or emailing but is happy to use FB messenger.

The school project sounds great fun Marigold. Hope you can organise a physical reunion when it's safe to do so!
 
That sounds a terrific project marigold, going to bring back a lot of memories for people.

If we visit someone, we don't look at our phones, and we expect the same courtesy back. OH told my daughters boyfriend off roundly for starting to flip through whatever, on his mobile phone at the table. Wherever OH is her phone is usually someone else like indoors. She just said I got to my 50's without a mobile, I just don't see the need to be joined at the hip with it.
Ditto TV or radio, visitors come in they go off.
 
Don't you know that everyone is entitled to their alternative facts nowadays Rick ;-). You're better off out of it. I found that even on here a good chunk of new keepers came on seeking validation of bad practices rather than actual advice. This isn't the place you are going to get that which is probably part of the reason it has always stayed as a relatively small community. I could be horribly overbearing at times but it tended to come from wanting to see the best for other peoples chickens, in the end I just decided it wasn't worth it and stopped dolling out unwanted advice.
 
Great to see you back Dinosaw. I always found your posts interesting and informative and I've missed them.
 
I looked for Chicken Keeping UK Forum, Rick, but couldn’t find it. Could you perhaps post a link? It would be interesting to look at the ‘opposition.’
 
Thirded, Yes I know it's not a word :lol: :lol: :lol:
Welcome back Dinosaw, glad you're not extinct
 
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