Wormer in water

I mean no offence but I disagree with deviating from the instructions.... :oops:

It is taking the medicine 'off license' and according to the VMD should only be done on the instruction of a vet who will then advise an appropriate egg withdrawal period.

A worthwhile experiment would be for you to measure the amount of feed your birds are eating in a week for their weight. This should give you an idea of how much they are supplimenting their diet free range.
 
None taken!

Whilst I perfectly understand where you are coming from on this I can't see what you suggest working for me or, judging from the things I have read, too many others like me. Not because it doesn't make sense ( it does :) ) but because it won't necessarily work out as intended. It might, but equally it might not.

It would be very hard to find an exact amount given the variations I have already set out in an earlier posting and then there would be seasonal variations too to take into account. And as others have said the hens won't always eat the pellets if they have flubenvet suddenly added! And the flubenvet might not evenly distribute across the pellets to enable proper take up, and while adding sunflower oil to the pellets and wormer might stop that problem it might affect the taste and my chickens might not eat it....So all calculations might go out the window. Plus I feed a 100% organic feed which I don't want to suddenly change them from either. I re-iterate I can't restrict other sources of food that they naturally forage. Also I would lose some to wild birds that help themselves to the pellets - the feeder is under the night coop and my chickens do not have a run. If they are not asleep in the coop that they go off to themselves at dusk, and are let out from by a timed auto door in the morning, they are utterly free to range and forage in the garden.

I am sure you can see how hit and miss what you say to do would be in my circumstances. However, what I do I recognise is also hit and miss - not in the sense that my chickens do not get wormed (which is what I am afraid would happen in the scenario you describe - for my situation)- they do get wormed. But in the sense that they all get the same or very similar amounts when the flubenvet is supposed to be taken up in the correct amount from feed based on the size (and eating habits) of the bird. As my lot are all around the 2kg mark give or take there is a margin of error but is it less than there would be using the prescribed method of worming or more????

It would seem just from this forum alone never mind others I have read items from in the past and other people I know with chickens that I am not alone in worming chickens this way.

If I discuss it with my chicken vet I'll ask her about egg withdrawal for the worming period of 7 days and see what she says. To be honest as I have no commercial interest in the eggs and have no problem chucking eggs for eg cephacare for a week after as well as treatment period this would not be a problem for me. Having said that |I really don't see that it would be necessary.

I believe it was Foxy who stated that chickens would have to be taking an awfully high amount of flubenvet to get anywhere near the amount you state would be dangerous in the eggs. If i have given the impression I am flinging vast amounts of flubenvet into my chosen medium and chucking it at my chickens in a haphazard way then I hope I can clarify this is not the case. I can't see why anyone would be that irresponsible.

I still believe that with a small backyard free-ranging and free foraging flock worming is a very inexact science. Perhaps it should be made common practice at the very least to withdraw eggs from consumption for duration of worming? Then there would no issues or conflicts.
 
To follow this up:

I have discussed with my chicken vet and what I do by way of measuring the Flubenvet for 8 hens of similar weight over 7 days (based on a 60g pot of Flubenvet 1% being the recognised allowance for 20 hens) and giving it in something so delicious that there will be quick and uniform take-up, is 'absolutely fine'.

Yes most people do use it in feed but, given the lifestyle my chickens have, what I do is perfectly sensible.

My figures were checked and the dose my chickens are getting is within the (apparently very wide) parameters of the allowance of flubedazole for each chicken. The amounts I give each day are 'pretty much bang on'.

So neither am I under dosing.
 

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