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yesterday my friend who i get my pekins from texted me asking if i would home a little bantam but neither of us know just what breed she is i think shes a buff orpington bantam but thats only a guess , she came from a school who hatched some eggs and i assume this one and a boy were the only ones that hatched but the school dont want them so he took them on but his birds were beating the hell out of this little girlie and i can see why the poor thing has only ever seen the inside of a inccy and a class room full of kids shes really nervous cant stand being touched freaks out at anything and really doesnt know how to be a chicken but once i have hold of her shes happy to sit on my head or shoulders or go to sleep tucked up in my arms omgggggggggggggggggggg shes so cute as she chirps like a little baby chick .
appartently shes 5 months old but to me she seems younger at mo shes staying in the mii run with house attached upstairs and i managing to get her into that house with the little millfluers of a night but i dare notlet her with the others full time shes had a few mins with them on and of but its instant attack from my other girls .ido wish schools would not hatch etc unless they know for sure that the birds had a reialbe suitable home to go to hek knows what would of happened if my friend had not got hold of them .
 

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Buff Orpington Karminski. No doubt about it and cuddle her lots -she (or he as they show at 20 weeks plus) will love you for it. Looks like a hen at the moment. More cuddles are rewarded later -all ours don't mind being picked up which makes life a lot easier later.
 
Agree with Bickerton. Teachers are so up their own *****. Lose track of reality too easily in the pursuit of government (or their own look good) targets. How many teachers with problems have we seen on here last year? Why can't they research the subject (be slightly qualified) before practicing!!
 
i am so tempted to write of to someone and complain about schools being allowed to hatch etc , i have a teacher down the road from me who has eggs from me and although his fmaily are lovley they are as thick as 2 short planks :lol: :lol: and hes addmitted to me that they knew nothing when they hatched some eggs .
and as for cuddles omggggggggggggggggggggggg only a chicken keeper will understand heheehehe seeing that my new cockeral is murdering the death out of my little millfluers i have now had to seprate them so he and his sisters are now in one side of the run and the original lot are on the other side anyway tonight i thought i'd let this little girl out an see how she gets on with my original lot uummm yeh they went ok she got pecked but thats to be espected but in the end i picked her up and ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh she cuddled into my arms and i was swaying her gently and rubbing my nose on her head and she tucked her neck back to place her head directly against my lips and fell asleep i was kissing her head really really gently and she was loving it its as if she thought i was mum :-)09 omg shes so so sweet
 
Orpingtons are Karminski. That's how we ended up with a Buff Orpington Cockerel as a pet. And he had a 'daddy bird' cuddle earlier. He's asleep under the table here now -so cute!!!
 
i must admit shes tearing me apart bless her , each afternoon when i get home i am letting her out to be with the others for 30 mins or so at a time and of course she gets the chase around and some quite nasty pecks but i am unsure on housing her :? at mo shes sleeping in with my 2 little dutch millfluers but one of them is really really picking on her and attacking her head the noise they make is crazy but thier house is to small to put in a seprate cage as its one of those dinkky things with a run attached during the day i leave her in the sercuity of this run while i am not there but i dare not let her sleep in it as theres no way of blocking her of or should i say securing her away in case mr fox gets in { doubtfull } i did put her in the little trainangle house i have which has a built in run { got it for quails but never used it now banties use it as an extra laying house } but she cried non stop :( i had to put her back in with the millies for tonight until i can come up with something esle or do i just keep putting her in with them and hope one day they will let her settle the little thing is breaking my heart .
if it doesnt rain during the night i can rescue a 4 by 1 1/2 ft toy chest from work which i can convert into a mini bantam house but i wont be able to do that tell the weekend at least if i house them in there they will have more room :-)05

p.s i have named her lemmy :-)17
 
There's as much indiscriminate hatching going on amongst poultry keepers with people falling into the trap of hatching and knowing nothing and not wanting to take responsibility for the male chicks.
 
i dont think she'll ever settle fully she makes out she wants to join the others but when she does all hell lets loose but at least shes probably one of the lucky ones i would to hate to think of how many birds are hatched though schools an never end up having a good life :(
 
I'm a teacher and also a very small time chicken keeper and I find some of the above comments very insulting. All my friends who hatch eggs in their classrooms do so in the knowledge the farmer will take them back after the children have observed them and helped to look after them for a set period. It is our chance to help our young children understand that eggs are not manufactured in Tesco's workshops! More sympathy needed for a very hardworking and caring profession, who have helped to make you what you are today.
 
karminski said:
i dont think she'll ever settle fully she makes out she wants to join the others but when she does all hell lets loose but at least shes probably one of the lucky ones i would to hate to think of how many birds are hatched though schools an never end up having a good life :(
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How old are the other birds Karminski? Orps are usually placid birds & as she is still very young you maybe ought to get her a friend around the same age & introduce the pair into the flock when they are a bit older. Shes a cutie :) My orps 7 months old & has just hatched out 3 chicks,
 
my others range from 9 months or so to 3 yrs and are a right proper mixture of breeds never had any trouble intorducing birds to the flock no matter what age before thing is with this poor little bird is shes not been allowed to grow up surrounded by other birds from what i can make out it was only her and her brother who hatched an they were kept in a class room all the time never went outdoors or anything so shes trying to learn everything at the same time as getting used to being around other birds . i keep her in the little pen thoughout the day an then let her out with them later in the day when i can be around to watch them .
 
Whatever comments are made always upset someone Cluckingchicks. I have no doubt that as both poultry keeper and teacher you have a responsible attitude to what you do, and more power to your elbow in teaching children where their food comes from.

As always it is the irresponsible few who spoil things for everyone else, or get the whole process a bad name. You say the chicks hatched at your school go back to the farmer, but it is obvious in Karminski's post that no thought had been given to the welfare of the chicks when they were no longer required at school. On that basis it is highly irresponsible to hatch the chicks in the classroom.
 
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Whatever comments are made always upset someone Cluckingchicks. I have no doubt that as both poultry keeper and teacher you have a responsible attitude to what you do, and more power to your elbow in teaching children where their food comes from.

As always it is the irresponsible few who spoil things for everyone else, or get the whole process a bad name. You say the chicks hatched at your school go back to the farmer, but it is obvious in Karminski's post that no thought had been given to the welfare of the chicks when they were no longer required at school. On that basis it is highly irresponsible to hatch the chicks in the classroom.
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Yes agree with Margaid. Sincerely hope you are not offended Cluckingchicks. Due to the dedication of yourself and colleagues, there are lots of children who have a better understanding of where our eggs come from, and have enjoyed and learned from the experience of hatching and rearing for themselves along with the early lessons around responsibility and nurture.
Equally however, due to the nature of the forum, we do tend to hear of the ones who have fallen through the net, the issues and problems and not so much of the happy outcomes! :roll:
 
part of me still feels that there should be more controls over this sort of thing in schools and i am sure not all schools are bad just the odd few i have spoken to school teachers i know personally and some have made me freak out as even they have admitted that they dont have a clue about anything of what they are doing nor really care about what happens to the birds when they ethier get to big or the pupils lose interest but i wander how many of the pupils get taught the other half of a birds life when they are culled for food {of course i dont mean young kids more teenagers} if they cant get the farmer or whoever to take them back , this little girlie is just lucky shes come to me and yes she might be stressing me out but i do know shes got a home for life and today seemed to of been pretty good shes been out all day with the others and all seemed happy when i got home shes been drinking out of thier water which is great to know in this heat but wether she ate or not that i dont know so she was placed back in her own pen about an hour ago so she could eat i have everything crossed that she turns into a wonderfull bird :D
 
I question how much of the 'origins of life' the exercise teaches them. Or whether they make the association between the bird in the plastic bag they have for dinner is actually the little fluffy chick they saw hatch. To get the picture you need to see the whole picture -not just the 'easy to teach' bits.
 
agree with you on that chris 100% you cant watch the beginning and never see the end ,i might be a vege blah blah all that goes with being one as well but i have seen it done and its not nice but its a part of life that cant be avoided .
 
Personally, I don't think pre-schools and key stage 1 children (infants) need to be taught how chickens are killed and end up wrapped up on the supermarket shelf, although I have always made a clear link between our birds and Tesco's chickens to my own children. I am happy that they pond dip for tadpoles, hatch chicks and watch butterflies emerge from cocoons in school. Don't deprive little ones of a small rural experience that schools can offer! If it was up to me, each school would have a few chickens and a veggie plot to encourage a sense of caring amongst the children.

We must as adults help to facilitate little learners, not put up barriers to stop them!

Maybe one or two of the more critical people could take some time to visit their local school and share their knowledge with some children?! I did as the children heard the story of 'The Little Red Hen' and they all loved it! Go on, give something back (if you are brave enough!!!!)
 
The hatching isn't my issue here, as original post, it appears it was hatched, and the school of didn't want it. Life lesson, if you don't want to take responsibility for an animal when you're done with it you can just give it away?

Takes me back to when I was a youngster, inevitably the class rodent rarely made it back alive after the school holidays when it given to a random child to care for it at home rather than the person that bought it.
 
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