What to keep in stock for poultry keeping - A list

Hello, if you look here it will give you some information about ACV
http://poultrykeeper.com/common-articles-to-all-poultry/general/apple-cider-vinegar.html
sorry i don't know a supplier in your area, you can get it on line.
regards, David :)
 
Any decent feed merchant (horse feed type place) will stock it. Animal grade stuff, unrefined. Human stuff is no good.

You buy it in 1L or 5L bottles. Usually less than a fiver for a 5L one.

I'm sure if you look up feed merchants in your area you'll find some in the equine section :)
 
cheepingmad said:
can i ask a silly question........ when you talk about acv, are you talking about the sort which can be purchased from the supermarket?? :oops:

I live in nottingham and am having trouble finding a local poultry supply store so am having to buy most things (except food) on line, so if any of you know any where local to nottingham I would be very interested to know.

Hi, no the supermarket stuff is refined. You need unrefined. They sell it in Livery shops for horses or you can buy it online - Earthly Enterprises for example sells ACV amongst others in 5 litre containers.
 
Hi Cheeping mad,

I live in Mansfield and have no trouble in getting ACV. What quantity do you want to buy it in?
My local pet food supplier Old Mill Animal Feeds sells it in 500ml or 5 litre containers very cheaply and it is the unpasturised stuff as used for horses etc.

Adam
 
Thanks guys I'm just starting to think about keeping hens or chickens this is top info thanks.
 
Hi Elmwood, I have bought seaweed to give my chickens I cannot say weather it is any good because I bought it off ebay and they delivered the wrong stuff and well I had to go back home to France so my mum is bringing it with her in a few weeks :) It is supposed to have all the known minerals and vitamins on earth in it and is meant to boost their immune system, its a bit more natural than the supplement you put in thier water. Bought 20kg for 30 quid which should last a long long time, although you can get it in smaller amounts, hope this helps a bit?
 
I've heard that spraying WD40 amongst other things on scaly leg works. I've never tried this in 15yrs of keeping poultry.

Does this actually work?
 
Umm have heard that too - but I don't take a chance with it when there are other easy ways of removing Scaly Leg.

Tim
 
Benzyl Benzoate from the vet for scaly leg mite. Had several cases of this with rescue birds and they have always responded with one or two treatments. Need to get any fungus off with a scalpel first so that the treatment reaches the mites under the scale -not a job for one person! WD40 was mentioned by a farmer at a poultry show when I asked. Politely putting it, his mates thought it wasn't a good idea at all.
Don't forget louse powder on the list. To be used occasionally as a precaution during the weekly vent inspections. No lice for 18 months and then bang! Every single bird had them and it took months to bring the outbreak under control.
 
elmwood said:
Hi all,

Day 4 in our chicken world. Have got most of the items on the essentials list, but no grit or oyster shell?
We were advised that as they are free range they wouldn't need it...... Just want to be absolutely sure.

Oh and have been adding a tonic to their daily water, for the past few days, (will continue for another couple) - whilst they are settling in..... using NETEX with added seaweed.
Should we stick to this, OR change to a monthly dose of apple cider vinegar OR use both in conjunction with each other?


Many thanks
Hi Elmwood. I Here is my advise for what it's worth. You should always use grit and oyster shell, as some soils do not supply the right kind of grit, and not many soils provide oyster shell! I use it even though my chickens utilise lumps of chalk they dig up. I often find these lying around glistening white, obviously much pecked at. You do need the calcium in shell or you will get soft shelled eggs, and worse, laying chickens will lose the calcium in their bones and start breaking their legs.
I wouldn't use tonic continuously. Vitamin powders perhaps, (if not already added to the feed) but too much tonic can I believe, be harmful. Use it in the cold or continuously rainy weather or when the hens are moulting, only. Hope this is helpful
 
always keep some veg oil = helps with sour crop
and some needles and fishing line = have had to put birds back together after a hawk
like to keep some oxy b- Broadspectrum Soluble Antibiotic Powder
angie
lovely legs poultry
 
Thank you for the list. It is just what a beginner like me needs!... I will nip out and buy the ACV tomorrow (apart from that I have all the essentials for my girls! Phew!!!)
 
Benzyle Benzoate is now unfortunately banned, but not all is doom and gloom, you can still get the alternative from horse stores and equestrian outlets as they use it for sweetitch, it contains BB but it's just not allowed to be called that anymore. (Bloomin EU!) It's still the best thing for scaley leg, and it doesn't hurt the birds to use it, if you find scaley leg and don't have anything containing BB or have trouble getting it, you can always use Imperial Leather talc mixed with vaseline, this brand of talc has a small quantity of BB in it, so works until you can get some of the good stuff! ;)
ACV is extremely beneficial to animals, it's got a huge list of benefits!
A drop in the rinse water brings out the shine in show birds.
Used neat it can stop bleeding in cuts.
It's great for good gut flora.
It's great for keeping joints supple.
Good source of vitamin C&D and potassium
works to turn the gut Ph to acidic and reduces worm burden.
It's a natural probiotic.
It can prevent crop impaction.
Can be used alongside crushed or powdered garlic as a prevention for respiritory problems.
As it contains vitamin D, it aids in the utilisation of calcium.
It feathers birds up quicker after moults, or in youngsters.
It can be used as a first aid treatment to hold coccy at bay until the correct medication can be bought. (needs to be a strong dose, and only used until baycox or coxoid can be used)
It works to reduce swelling in sprained joints.
And finally,...... it's quite nice on yer chips!! :-)17
Use plastic water containers with ACV as it causes rust on enamalled ones, and oxidises galvenised ones!
Proberbly one of the main things to keep around! :-)17 ;)

JubesXX
 
jubilee said:
Used neat it can stop bleeding in cuts.

JubesXX

:shock: OUCH!!! have you ever had vinegar in a cut?? I think i will pass on that personally sorry! I'll stick to a bit of corn flour if you don't have a styptic powder with some benzocaine in it!

just to add for wounds, bumble and other skin irritations Calendula oil or cream is brill!
 
:lol: It only stings for a second, and it quarterizes it leaving the edges clean, and ready for either stitches or superglue! Besides which, anything is better than leaving a wound open to bleed in an emergencey, or to get infected which i would think would hurt more than a few seconds sting. :roll:
Putting frontline, WD40 or surgical spirits on scaley leg hurts more! ;)

JubesXX
 
jubilee said:
:lol: It only stings for a second, and it quarterizes it leaving the edges clean, and ready for either stitches or superglue! Besides which, anything is better than leaving a wound open to bleed in an emergencey, or to get infected which i would think would hurt more than a few seconds sting. :roll:
Putting frontline, WD40 or surgical spirits on scaley leg hurts more! ;)

JubesXX

cauterizing or not no thanks!! same with iodine hurts like hell!! LOL if it's having stitches or skin glue I would probably flush with saline, dry, pressure and stitch/glue.
I've never used frontline, WD40 or surgical spirits on chooks personally! :D
 
Bertie & The Chooks said:
cauterizing or not no thanks!! same with iodine hurts like hell!! LOL if it's having stitches or skin glue I would probably flush with saline, dry, pressure and stitch/glue.
I've never used frontline, WD40 or surgical spirits on chooks personally! :D
:roll: Oh dear, looks like i have upset you ....AGAIN Steph! The info i posted was included in a welfare talk i did for Pets at Home store in Notts, and you are the first one who has disagreed with it. I shall have to bring this up on the official website for ACV and Natural remedies, and inform them their info is wrong. :-)10

JubesXX
 
jubilee said:
Bertie & The Chooks said:
cauterizing or not no thanks!! same with iodine hurts like hell!! LOL if it's having stitches or skin glue I would probably flush with saline, dry, pressure and stitch/glue.
I've never used frontline, WD40 or surgical spirits on chooks personally! :D
:roll: Oh dear, looks like i have upset you ....AGAIN Steph! The info i posted was included in a welfare talk i did for Pets at Home store in Notts, and you are the first one who has disagreed with it. I shall have to bring this up on the official website for ACV and Natural remedies, and inform them their info is wrong. :-)10

JubesXX


:-)07 Not upset at all hun! i think you are misreading my posts! (listen for a jaunty playful voice when you read my posts i'm a giggler! haha very sweet and kind hearted type). but i'm don't get my point across well i tend to just state whats on my mind and sometimes it doesn't come out right! dont take it the wrong way. i'm just crap at stringing sentences together... bit thick like that i guess :-)02
Stop being so defensive! It's just my opinion! I worked at a vets that was hot up on pain management and i studied animal behaviour so i'm just really sensitive to it i guess?? i try not to humanise animals and see them as their own species with their own reactions and responses to things. I specialised in feline behaviour and my coworker with poultry! she's s**t hot on poultry behaviour i'm sure she would love to pick your brain with your experience!
you're fine with me love seriously!! i just love a good devils advocate and debate sometimes to get people's opinions and experience! :-)17
xx
 
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