Waterlogged Run.

woodruffsdad

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My chicken run is a quagmire! The problem is the underlying clay soil on which our garden is based so I can't move the run as it will be the same wherever I put it.

There is a large dry spot under the raised hen house where I put the chickens' food etc. and another outside on a slightly higher banked area which I have covered in bark chips.

The rest of the run is like the battlefields of the Somme!

1) Is there any way I can make the water drain away? I have dug up the run but it hasn't helped.

2) Would it help if I covered at least part of the roof of the run with clear plastic sheeting?

3) Should I buy a chicken shelter such as the one at http://www.flytesofancy.co.uk/chickenhouses/Chicken_Shelter.html ?
 
Hi Woodruffsdad and welcome to the Forum.
If you have a clay soil and no roof to your run, anything you can do to the base may give some temporary relief from the mud but will not be a lasting solution unless you installed a complete underfloor drainage system. This would be a lot of work and probably uneconomic compared with the cost of roofing the run with clear plastic corrugated sheets. Also it wouldn't solve the problem of wet and miserable chickens. I had my run roofed with corrugated sheets last year when it was so horribly wet, and have been very grateful for the dry and comfortable conditions it has provided. Its good to fit a gutter along the lower side of the roofing, perhaps draining into a water butt - ours has a hose attached which then takes water straight into our pond. A gutter helps remove water before it can blow in under the edge of the roofing and on to the floor of the run.
For additional shelter from wind and rain I recommend fixing clear plastic Monotex tarpaulin to some of the sides of the run , which will prevent rain, snow and wind blowing in - I have left one side of my run open so the girls can see out, but the rest is now like a sort of 3-sided tent, very comfortable and the floor stays blissfully dry. Its a lot better for the girls, and now I really enjoy going in there in all weathers to see them, without rain dripping down my neck. You can get the tarp from Tarpaulins Direct see
http://www.tarpaulinsdirect.co.uk/tarpaulins/tarpaulins/monotex-tarpaulin - green is illustrated but they also do clear.
, it's very cheap but easy to cut and fix to woodwork with battens of wood off cuts, and can be removed in summer when it gets hot. I've had the same stuff in use for three years now and its as good as ever, very strong stuff. Some people create tailor-made panels from corrugated plastic on a frame, which can be fixed in place and taken down in summer, but of course you need more room to store these than a folded tarpaulin.
I suppose the Flytes of Fancy shelter you linked would give some protection if your birds were out on a large open area, but I would have thought that, for that price, you could have bought a cheap shed, or bought the materials to make something larger and just as effective. Or maybe the money would go towards buying your corrugated sheeting to solve the problem altogether?
You could also cover the floor with permeable landscaping fabric - search the web for the wide sort, mine is 2-3 metres so fewer joins. This needs pegging down well at the sides to prevent the hens from digging up the edges, and you need to fold under the cut edges to prevent fraying (or pre- sew them to size if you have a sewing machine.) The membrane lasts for years if its covered with a good depth of bedding, mine has now been down for four years and is still working fine. This will cure the mud problem as the earth itself will be under the membrane and the chickens won't be able to scratch it into whatever you put on the floor. You can them keep it clean by daily poo picking, without mud being involved. You could of course do this to your run as it stands, without roofing it, and it would help with the mud, but you might get puddles forming on the surface depending on how much rain there was and how bad the drainage. If a roof could go on to the run, the mud underneath would dry out in time and you could add Aubiose or a similar product, or wood chippings, to the floor. Membrane by itself wouldn't work so well, it would need a 4ins depth of wood chippings or Aubiose or similar on top, but this would be a lot better than mud. If roofed as well, it would then be warm, soft and comfortable for the chickens, whatever the weather outside, and they would be able to scratch in it and enjoy just sitting round in a sheltered corner after lunch, out of the wind and rain. Mine do this and have long quiet conversations, I really like watching them.
 
Thank you Marigold.

One end of my run has the large hen house and a tall fence sheltering it, one long side is against a neighbour's tall fence, the other end is against my garden shed which just leaves one long side and the top exposed to the elements.

I think maybe I'll take your advice and cover the top with corrugated clear plastic sheeting.

That should do the trick shouldn't it?
 
If you could do this it would be a very good solution. Maybe consider some tarp as well, to help make the run a bit more draughtproof? If you could cover part of the long side it would give them a dry and comfortable 'living room' at one end.
 
Hi Woodruffsdad.
I bought a Monotex tarpaulin from the same place as Marigold a week or so ago (quick & efficient delivery; couldn't fault it) but tried to use it as roofing to stop my run from turning into a quagmire too. Our run is roofed in 2 x 2" timbers covered in chicken wire, so I put the tarpaulin over the top, pulled it tight & tied it to the timbers.

After one night of non-stop rain, I got up the next morning to find the structure of the run straining under the weight of at least 300kg of water where the tarpaulin had sagged, despite the roof having a slope on it. If it hadn't been so sturdily built, it'd have collapsed & crushed hens, coop, greenhouse et al. I had one heck of a job draining the water off; if I'd been away for a whole wet weekend, I dread to think what would have happened.

The moral of this is: follow Marigold's advice & use corrugated roofing; don't try to put a tarpaulin over the roof to keep the rain off. :-)09
 
You were up late, Icemaiden!

I have decided to go ahead with roofing the entire run with clear plastic corrugated sheeting angled to enhance water run off. I'll see how that goes before I decide on whether or not to buy a tarpaulin. Our garden is very sheltered with tall fencing all around.

Our girls have the freedom of the entire garden when we're at home on Saturdays, Sundays, Mondays & Tuesdays. They're just stuck with a boggy run on Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays. On the other hand the hens have a little "island" of dryness (bark chipped) surrounded by bog in their run and the hen house is raised giving a dry area underneath.

Is there anything I can put down which will soak up the mud?

I went in to the run this morning to feed and de-poo and sank up to my ankles in cold, wet mud. Ugh! And shock horror, I saw a couple of rat tunnels emerging in the run.
 
Once you get the roof on, I expect the mud will gradually dry out naturally. If you could then cover the ground as I suggested and then put down some kind of deep litter, problem should be solved.
 
Hi Woodruffsdad.
There's a reason why I have a battery operated door opener on the coop- the hens' ideas of time to get up & time to go to bed are rather different to mine :)

When I clean out the coop, I poo pick the bedding & then put the cleanest of the rest of it onto the muddiest / most heavily trafficked patches of the run. It doesn't do much for the regrowth of grass in the spring, but stops me from slipping & falling base over apex in the mud.

I've got patio slabs around the outside circumference of the run to stop foxes from digging in, & a couple just inside the door, but am also contemplating putting a few more inside the run in the area where I stand to poo pick the coop each morning. The girls would still have plenty of ground to scratch around on, but I'd have a bit of solid surface under my feet... Just a thought...
 
I've just bought a huge bale of Aubiose from my local farm supplies shop for £9.33. I'll give it a go!
 
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