Probable Dog Attack

dawn

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Yesterday when I got home instead of 3 chickens running to greet me as usual, I found one rooster in the henhouse and apparantly fine and a pile of black feathers by the front of our house. No sign of the two hens. We eventually found the black hen who came out of the bushes, she'd lost a lot of feathers and was jumpy but otherwise ok. I haven't wanted to chase her to pick her up and check and she was wary of coming to me, but she's moving eating etc as normal. We searched for ages for the little grey hen, Squeak,but found no sign at all.

I hoped she was hiding somewhere scared and would come home, but a neighbour found her body this morning on a drive way, just a few feathers missing on her back but otherwise unharmed. We think she died of shock.

The question is what took her and attacked the other. I suspect a dog, there's never been a sign of a fox around here, it was in broad daylight and her body is intact. There is a spaniel type dog (I think) in the house next to the driveway, it is always getting out and causing havoc on the main road. The dog warden has been called before now. It's quite a way from our house so I haven't been too worried before. Poor little Squeak was attacked by another neighbour's dog last year, but just lost her cushion of tail feathers and they were so apologetic and keep that dog under really good control now.

I'm going to speak to the spaniel owners, but they are really chaotic people. Does anyone know the law on what we can do if we find it in our garden ? My partner says he'll happily shoot it if he sees it worrying our chickens but I'm sure that's not on and I wouldn't want that anyway. I'd just like to tell them what we could do though to try and make them take it seriously. I will however point out to them that from our garden the dog could easily go straight onto the field next to us where the local farmer keeps his sheep and lambs and if his gamekeeper finds the dog worrying sheep I'm sure he's allowed to shoot it.

I've also got to decide what to do in future. It is just impracticable to dog proof our garden it's so big and the dogs get in through massive yew hedges. I've kept the two remaining chickens in their pen today, but they're desparate to get out and free range as usual and that's what I've always preferred for them.
 
Presumably if dogs can wander in then chickens can wander out which wouldn't go down well if you're complaining about someone else's animal - and I think you'd be ill-advised to make an issue of it without evidence.
 
Hiya

I have a little well intentioned input for you.

Does anyone know the law on what we can do if we find it in our garden ? My partner says he'll happily shoot it if he sees it worrying our chickens

Like a Pig, Sheep and a few others a dog has certain protection more than many animals. I believe it comes from the time they were licenced. (A cat has no standing, a dog does) Damage to a dog must be reported to the police (iirc)

However ... IF the dog comes onto your property and causes damage I believe things change to the point where you may hold the dog until damages are paid to you.

At ALL times you must keep the law on your side by taking all preventative measures and not jumping to conclusions. Speaking to the owner when you are not sure it was thier dog and you allow "Free range" without proper fences is just nuts (JMHO)

I realy respect you and huby are upset, but be carefull. I am on your side ....

I suggest it would be helpfull if the little hellhound was found in the farmers field worrying sheep..... He is allowed to shoot it... I know that for a fact. I had my dog (An Afghan hound, I will add !) shot by a drunk farmer as a fox worrying sheep when I was a lad.

Please remember .... Mother nature (Gaia) has certain laws about free range ..... Survival of the fittest ... don't clip thier wings and hope they are sharp enough to find cover ..... a Cock helps in that . ;)
 
Thank-you for the advice. Although I call it garden, the area the chickens range in is land really and ample to keep them occupied. They never go beyond it. To get to us the dog has to come down a long private drive. So I have no doubts that it was where it shouldn't be, and that my chickens were where they should be. The evidence was 2 foot from my back door. I did say that I wouldn't want the dog shot too, just wanted the owners to take the issue seriously. I have spoken to them now, and did ofcourse establish first whether the dog had escaped. The owner admitted it had and agreed there were no other dogs around in our tiny village, so it was most likely his. He said the local gatekeeper had said last week that the dog would be shot if it was seen in his land but despite that it was still allowed to escape. The owner said the police have also been called out to deal with it. There are in fact two and I saw them, they are fierce and I would be worried if I came across them loose. I also spoke to an agricultural lawyer I know, his opinion was we were within our rights to shoot if the dog was attacking our chickens and this took place on our land. I wouldn't do that as I said.
 
Hi
Chickens are classed as livestock, if a dog comes onto your land and attacks / kills a chicken you are within your rights to shoot it. Before we had the 10ft fence errected we had problems with a neighbours dog, so I made enquiries legally as to where I stood. Luckily after a threat to the neighbour it did not come back on my land again.
 
victorias poultry said:
Hi
Chickens are classed as livestock, if a dog comes onto your land and attacks / kills a chicken you are within your rights to shoot it. Before we had the 10ft fence errected we had problems with a neighbours dog, so I made enquiries legally as to where I stood. Luckily after a threat to the neighbour it did not come back on my land again.

I'd love to know if this applies to cats - I'm looking for any excuse to reduce the village's population and stop them crapping in my garden! :D
 
Hi Dawn,

Having PM'd you and now read the complete post, and having recently gone through exactly the same, I agree, you are well within your rights to contact the police, and prosecute etc as the dog came onto your land. This information was given to me by well seasoned poultry keepers. I didn't report our incident, as we wanted to keep relations with the dog owner on a even keel. However, she still walks the dogs each and every day past our drive onto the green next to our house and of course they are off their lead......constantly. Our gate now has three locks. We have dumped mounds of top soil all along the perimeter fence to stop them from clawing under the base. ( There was a 2 inch gap)

This is a very sensitive and upsetting matter, and I think it wise for people to take this into account before they make posts such as the one above !! Inappropriate springs to mind.......
 
I think it wise for people to take this into account before they make posts such as the one above !! Inappropriate springs to mind.......

With deep respect to your sentiments, I suggest you are being over sensitive.

I had made a comment about cats being different in point of law and Mawsley and I banter a bit sometimes.... Poetic licence maybe ? ... please ? :-)99

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As for shooting the dog ...... One assumes all licences are valid and no shooting is done withing 50 feet of a public right of way ? :-)04 :-)07
 
Rebelodicus said:
With deep respect to your sentiments, I suggest you are being over sensitive

Point taken, BUT this post is about a members concern/upset/distress re losing her chickens to a dog....

and I lost my third hen yesterday since 19 Feb.

So my sensitivity empathy is acceptable given the circumstances me thinks......
 
elmwood said:
This is a very sensitive and upsetting matter, and I think it wise for people to take this into account before they make posts such as the one above !! Inappropriate springs to mind.......

Dear oh dear.

Maybe you should consider that not everyone is quite so humourless.
 
Thank you Sharron for your kind words, they are appreciated, and Victoria's Poultry. It hasn't dampened my rooster's enthusiasm for life so to speak, but the remaining hen is still not happy and is finding it hard to cope with the being the only object of desire now particularly with so many missing feathers. I think she'd be even worse if I separated them though as she hides behind him a lot of the time. I'm trying to find two more hens, but it's not easy at this time of year.

I didn't want to be controversial and hoped I'd made it clear in the first post that I didn't want the dogs shot, and still don't. I am fond of dogs generally and would be reluctant to kill another's pet knowing how distressing it is to lose pets. I realise it's not the same for everyone on the forum, but the chickens in my case are pets. Our guns are fully licenced however and our garden is the requisite distance from the public right of way.
 
Hi Dawn
I hope you find some nice girls to go with your existing lady soon. Hens are sociable creatures who like company
 
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