Mixing different Breeds

chuckhead

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Hi All
Just wanted to know if this okay. I want 6 chickens in the main for eggs and as pets, my intention or idea is to have 3 different breeds and have 2 of each, is this okay? As a rule can you keep 3 different types of chicken in such a small flock or would this be unwise, when it comes to hybrids can these be kept with pure breeds and can hybrids be kept in a flock as a single bird? As an example; 2 Light Sussex, 2 Burford Browns, 1 Amber Star and 1 Gingernut Ranger. Would this cause possible problems or classed as not the done thing,or can anything go. Do chickens prefer the company of there own breed are they even aware of it? Sorry if this sounds daft, I am new to all this chicken keeping business and want the best for my chickens. Many thanks in advance for your help!
 
Hi Chuckhead and welcome to the Forum - and to the wonderful world of chicken keeping.
I'm one of the many keepers with a small mixed flock of back garden chickens - I currently have two 18 -week-old point of - lay hybrid pullets, a Columbian Blacktail and a Leghorn hybrid. They will lay a brown egg and a white egg, in maybe a months time. I also have two purebreds - a Buff Sussex (se my avatar pic) who lays pale cream eggs, and Cream Legbar, who lays blue eggs. So I can always tell who has laid that day. So yes, you can keep a mixed flock, but there may be issues about mixing them in the first place, as chickens find moving home very stressful and may fight or even become ill if this isn't done correctly. You are less likely to have these problems initially if you can get your first set of birds all from the same place and introduce them all together at the same time, so the territory is new to all of them. There will still be a few squabbles as they establish the pecking order, but you could put them all in together. If and when you introduce birds from a different source to an established flock, things can be more complicated and it's good to separate then for at least a couple of weeks, partly to let them settle down, but also for quarantine reasons.
Your problem will be sourcing your first birds, if you want a mixed flock from a start.
It's quite easy to find hybrids, which are bred commercially in large numbers, and some are sold on to retailers who offer a good selection of breeds, all kept together, from which you can choose a variety to give different coloured eggs and be easily distinguishable as individuals. They will also be much less expensive than good purebred stock - probably about half the price. They will lay well, be easily tamed and friendly, wont go broody, and very hardy through the coming winter. They probably won't live as long as purebreds and will tend to use up their egg supplies in the first 2-3 years, as they are bred to do this for commercial reasons. Im sure people on here can help you find a good source for these. But the purebreds are not so likely to come from the same place at the same time, as they are often bred by people who specialise in one or a few breeds, rather than the whole range. Also they have often sold out of point of lay pullets at this time of year as they tend to be hatched in Spring and breeders try to reduce their stock over winter. So, if you want to make a start this autumn, you might consider getting maybe 3 point of lay hybrids, which will lay through the winter better than purebreds, and then research sources of purebred stock for next year. This way will also have the advantage of spreading the ages of your flock so they don't all 'retire' at the same time!
For 6 hens you will need at least 12 square metres of run space - and it's best to have a freestanding coop in the run, rather than a small fixed run and coop attached. There are lots of threads on here about coops and runs, and also of course there's the main Poultrykeeper site http://poultrykeeper.com/ (see link at bottom of page) with lots of helpful info on setting up to keep chickens.
Do keep posting with more queries, there are lots of experienced people on here who, like me, have made all the mistakes and learned from them the hard way!
 
Hi chuckhead and welcome to the forum! :D :-)99

Just a note concerning pure breeds, there are differences in character, which means that some of them really don't flourish as well in a mixed flock due to their very docile nature so can suffer from bullying. On the other side some are rather flighty and although pretty, can be rather stressful to keep for a novice.

Mixing growing birds with older birds also can bring in a few management problems, not just from the pecking order, (they are prone to bullying until in lay) but also from the perspective of health, younger birds like all animals are more prone to disease.
 
With care, most breeds can be kept as a mixed group. the key is to provide plenty of space and not to mix extremes in breed sizes, temperaments, or birds that may have some physical disadvantage to another. For instance, it would not be wise to mix a tiny breed like the Serama, with a giant breed like a Cochin in a small run, or a heavily crested breed like a Poland with a sharp eyed aggressive breed like an Oshamo.Chickens are all descended from a common Ancestor, the Red Junglefowl, a naturally flock living species, so after a period of introduction, virtually any breed will settle in with another, despite any apparent physical differences.

The breeds/hybrid mixtures you suggest should be ok together. It would be as well to find out if any of the birds have been vaccinated for Marek's disease. Many hybrids are inoculated as day olds, and as a result become carriers of the disease, which they can then pass on to unvaccinated stock. Many pure breeds are not Marek's inoculated, so could be at risk if mixed with the hybrids.

Once you have assembled your flock,and it would be best to introduuce ALL the birds at the same time, there will be aggression amongst the hens to start with. Fighting of varying degrees of seriousness is inevitable. Again, the secret is to provide plenty of space, so subordinate birds have room to escape the attentions of their more assertive flock mates, and to provide multiple feeding and watering points, so no one is bullied away from eating or drinking. Ensure plenty of perch space in the Hen-house as well. Some hens will be reluctant to go to roost if space is tight in their night time quarters, especially when the more dominant hens have taken the best spots on the perches!

Keep a close eye out for excessive aggression,Occasionally some hens do not know when to stop, and will draw blood from a victim, or sometimes worse! ( although this is not typical!). If a bird is wounded, Spray the bloodied area with a Gentian violet wound antiseptic spray, as any visible blood will act as a magnet for other birds in the flock to peck at the damaged hen.
Generally speaking, hens sort their social order out pretty quickly, and with minimal fuss, so within a few days/weeks, most carefully introduced flocks will have settled down.
 
Many Thanks for your advice,very glad I asked the question I don't think it will be the only one!
 
Just to add, this morning I've successfully introduced my two hybrid POL pullets to the 'big girls,' having had them living alongside in their own section of the run for the past couple of weeks. Last night I removed them from their little coop and added them to the main coop after dark, so they slept with the older hens, all woke up and emerged together today. I'm pleased to say that, apart form a couple of pecks from the Legbar girl who will now become top hen, they've all settled down together, both the new ones are eating and drinking without problems, and all is quiet and peaceful. This depends partly on individual hens - they do differ in temperament between breeds and as individuals within a breed, just like dogs do, for instance. It also depends on having plenty of space, as Lordcluck says, and places for the new ones to hide away in the run at first.
Yes, some people do experience problems arising from mixing vaccinated hybrids and nonvaccinated purebreds, which is why a period of quarantine is a good idea before the new ones mix with the old ones. The stress of moving home may depress a pullets immune system and latent infections may then emerge in apparently healthy birds, especially the young ones as Foxy says. And sometimes there may be issues with vaccinated hybrids acting as carriers for diseases that they are immune to, but unvaccinated birds are not. But in the vast number of cases, it's OK to mix a flock, so long as you go about it the right way and obtain healthy stock from a reputable source. I've had several generations of new birds in a mixed flock over the years with no problems. All sorts of things can go wrong with chickens, many of them preventable, and though you should be aware of vaccination issues, IMO they're not an overriding concern.
But if you want any eggs this winter, get hybrids, and get them soon, as if they are less than about 22-24 weeks by the middle to end of November they probably won't lay until the Spring because of the shorter, colder days in winter. My new birds are now 18 weeks, and I hope they'll make it into lay by the end of October if I'm lucky.
By the way, all the birds on your list are hybrids except for the Sussex, and if you like the look of the Sussex, with that attractive necklace of contrasting feathers, there are some hybrid lookalike versions you could consider, and they wouldnt go broody as much as my Sussex does! Gingernut Rangers are a Rhode Island Red X Sussex hybrid.
 
Many Thanks for that Marigold.
We may well go with all Hybrids,the choice seems endless which is a good thing. I thought the Burford Browns were an Hybrid but after talking to the gent concerned[a well known breeder/supplier of these]he says not and he classes them as a pure breed. I suppose this opens up a whole new debate of what is a pure breed and what isn't in the view of different people and organisations.
Once again many thanks for your help.
 
This page might interest you http://www.urbanchicken.org.uk/index.php/Breeds#Araucana
Also this from Poultrykeeper http://poultrykeeper.com/chicken-breeds/hybrid
I think if these are your first chickens, hybrids would be a good choice. Whereabouts are you? Maybe someone on here knows of a good breeder they could recommend near to you.
 
Thanks Marigold.
We will be defintely be having some or all Hybrids,the thought of some pure breeds does also really appeal. I am in Driffield,East Yorkshire. I do have a couple of places in mind to visit but if anyone else has any reccomendations please let me know. When it comes to the pure breeds I was thinking hardy,strong birds like RIR,Light Sussex,Plymouth Rocks and Barnevelder are these breeds good first time birds? For pure breeds are they reasonable layers? Another thing I would like is for them not to be to flighty and not classed as broody.
Thanks.
 
All those breeds would be hardy, fuss-free and suitable, and should lay OK, though with purebreds you do need to enquire whether they come form a good laying strain, as with some lines they are bred more for appearance than for utility. But this does apply more to the ones with more extravagant feathering such as Orpingtons. There's a member on here who breeds Barnvelders, in Yorkshire, so he might be able to help you. His website is here http://www.barnevelders.net/ and it has a lot of info about the breed, very attractive birds.
Any purebred is much more likely to go broody than an egglaying hybrid, which have been selected not to do this, for commercial reasons. My Sussex has had three goes this year! If you get purebreds you will need to know how to deal with broodiness at the early signs, but this can be done, though it interrupts egglaying for 2-3 weeks of course.
 
Superb web-site that Marigold,thanks. Yours and others people knowledge on here is quite incredible and a massive help!
 
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