Cream Legbar x ?? - help!

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We've have a cockerel who we were led to believe is a Cream Legbar, and bred him with 2 genuine CL girls. I'm not sure he is a CL now!
We've ended up with 3 daughters and 5 sons but they all look different. I have my own thoughts on what dad might be and the progeny but expert help would be appreciated in identifying the cockerel and therefore the young.
By the way, we're not breeding to sell - it's just a bit of educational fun for the children.
Pix of dad, sons and daughters are in a photobucket album:

http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj623/truegrit1/
 
I can't help you with identification, sorry, but he is very handsome whatever he is!!
 
Thank you Sue, he is a handsome chap, if I say so myself. I thought he may be a Welbar but am reliably informed he isn't. Perhaps he's a Brusbar, or just a CL colour variation?
 
The rose comb is obviously wrong Truegrit and the colouring too dark generally, having seen CL cockerels after I bought one home (I thought) only to be shown by my wife that Boris looked nothing like one. He was similarly coloured to your cockerel but without the barring on the feathers. Turned out he was a Brown Leghorn, but they have single combs. So to summarise, I haven't a clue Truegrit.
 
I think he is Croele coloured, which is rare, so thats good, as far as breed, not sure!
 
Thank you Chris and Bex, all good info. The boy offspring look either CL or like dad, and the girls have something similar to Welsummer plumage and CL shape! All thoughts gratefully received.
 
i would guess he is 50% CLB but what the other 50% is is anyones guess. if you do want to breed more and dont want to buy another cockerel choose the best looking young cock and cross back to your original hens, most of offspring should come back looking CLB.
 
rarebreedbreeder said:
i would say 50% cream lagbar 50% wyandotte, i may be wrong but comb and slightly yellow legs???
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It's what I would go with too

- just as an aside, all the autosexing males which are 'partridge' or 'wild' type colouring are very similar both in colouring and at first glance looks. The CL carries a barring gene as does 'dad', but suspect only one copy on the 'dad' hence the youngsters looking so very different. You've got some barred birds and some unbarred birds there at a guess.

As they are just pets, no harm done, but I do get very annoyed when people just willy nilly sell on birds as something in particular, when they are just cross breeds as your 'dad' pic shows! sorry I'll get off my soap box now! :D
 
Thank you Phil, Rarebreed and Mighty. Think we have got somewhere now. We will keep dad as he's a handsome chap, and pretty docile towards humans. We won't breed from him, and the boy offspring have a little while more to enjoy the sun on their backs before the inevitable.
 
Can't see any Wyandotte in there myself Truegrit. There is a sort of Rose comb, but not a Wyandotte one and the colouring and shape is wrong. The two Welsummers (?) we found homes for (Dinky and Donky in 'Drive by dumping') had very similar shape and colouring but straight combs so I would say the other cross is another mixture and not simply one breed.
 
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