Chuxaway automatic door

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Has anyone tried the Chuxaway battery powered automatic door with programmable timer? It seems to be a lot cheaper at c £90 than the German-made VSB battery operated door for £160 with a 4-year guarantee.
 
Chickenfan-can only say that the VSB opener (without timer) is a good product, have had mine for 4 years which included 1 year with it sitting unused on my father in laws allotment and it started back up without a problem. Given you have a light sensor on the VSB I would question the extra value of a timer on the Chuxaway which brings them much closer together in price at circa £95 for the VSB without timer. That's not to say of course that the Chuxaway isn't a perfectly good product.
 
Before I had a run that was big enough for them to stay in all the time I had a door on a timer set up to let them out in the morning earlier than I was prepared to get out of bed! It didn't close, just opened. I've always wondered about automatic closing as I would still want to check that they're all in and so might as well close it myself. If it was a fox issue (I.e. Keeping them secure after dark) then there's the whole issue of when is too early to open or too early to close or locking one out because I've heard that dusk and early morning is a dangerous time re foxes but they won't go to roost of their own accord till dusk is well underway.
It's almost like you could do with a timer in the morning (say an hour past sunrise) and a light sensor at night (but not till the last glimmer.)
I don't know if the sensitivity is adjustable on these doors but without the light control the you might be adjusting the timer every week to keep to the seasons.
A light sensor with adjustable sensitivity at both events would be ideal. Or give them all a house key and a sign saying 'last one in locks up'!

...but I suppose if one gets locked out then that will be because they are roosting somewhere else and wouldn't move after dark anyway but at least they are the only one running the risk. So after much pontificating I agree that light controlled is probably all you need. Phew!
 
Thank you Rick and Dinosaw. I shall probably worry a lot with having the birds away from home and not having my dog to warn me of foxes.
 
I had a Hensafe which had both light sensor and timer. If you use the combined method then for closing for example you set the light level and then set a slightly earlier time. Both parameters have to be met before it opens/closes eg if you've set it to close at 7 pm but it's bright and sunny, it won't close until it's dark enough. It's very easy to set so you can reset the light level and/or time every couple of weeks. I sold it when I had to give up my hens and they transferred the balance of the guarantee to the new owner. Just Googled it - has a 2 year guarantee and is £138.98 delivered in the UK. They also sell a remote light sensor if you need to mount it inside the coop. Also the firm is in Cricklade, Wilts.

Can't remember if I'm allowed to post links but here it is - no doubt the mods will remove it if necessary.

http://www.hensafe.net/how-it-works.html

Whatever you get you need to keep a check on the batteries although the Hensafe has a "low battery" warning .
 
Thank you very much for this link Margaid. I've bought something that looks just like this. Just waiting for the weather to pick up a bit before moving my birds.
 
Same product is much cheaper on Amazon. I got the Hensafe one in the end and finding it brilliant.
 
I've realised the Hensafe door is not at all secure. It just drops down and any fox could open it.
 
I've been deliberating on which automatic door opener to buy so this was an interesting read. Now it's made me realise that it probably isn't much use me getting one with a light sensor on it because the chicken coop and run is in the middle of the field and we have lights all around the field for when the dogs go out last thing. There is also a sensor light on the stables so that could interfere too. I think I'll get a straightforward timer device.
 
Hi Redbarn, I think you at least need a really heavy drop down door (hensafe moves up to 5kg door) to make it worth the expense of an automatic door which a fox can easily lift up.
 
If you make a really strong, foxproof run, you don't actually need to ever close the pophole at night at all. Then you don't have all the bother or worry of shutting them up and opening them up, or wondering whether the door has worked, and they can come and go as they please (VERY early at this time of year.) and ventilation in the coop is greatly improved as well.
 
I have to say I'm now a bit worried about how lightweight the pophole door is. It's an aluminium one and in hindsight I can see how a fox could easily open it....hmmm. I think I'll continue working on my run and making it as predator proof as I can. I think once the chickens arrive and are used to the coop I may consider leaving the pop hole open for them.
 
Yes I think you're right, the run has to be the main line of defence. If that's good enough, they'll never have the terrifying xperience of being shut up in a coop whilst the fox is chewing his way in to get them!
 
The metal door is hopeless. Mine has already jammed. I have to say I'm only shutting mine in at night because of the cockerels early crowing.
 
Marigold wrote
If you make a really strong, foxproof run, you don't actually need to ever close the pophole at night at all. Then you don't have all the bother or worry of shutting them up and opening them up, or wondering whether the door has worked, and they can come and go as they please (VERY early at this time of year.) and ventilation in the coop is greatly improved as well.
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I'm quite interested in this, as currently a lot of my birds are choosing to just perch in their Flyte so Fancy rain shelter overnight. Do hens not need to be kept warm at night in winter? Or could a rain shelter with a perch and facing away from the wind be enough? There is the big disadvantage that foxes will try harder to get into a pen with visible easy access birds, and this could stress them a lot, as well as the problem of a cock crowing not being muffled by housing - but its hard to afford decent housing, and it rarely has enough ventilation.
 
My coop pophole is situated facing towards a corner of the run, which is covered with tarpaulin so winds don't blow directly inside. The Green Frog door is basically an isosceles triangle suspended by its narrowest point, adjustable so you can set it to be fully open in summer and a bit narrower in winter. This is a benefit but not absolutely necessary, the normal rectangular door would be just as good. So long as the birds aren't exposed to wind and rain blowing in directly though the pophole, they're fine with an open door and as you say the ventilation is good. Chickens are very well insulated in their fitted 'duvets' and really don't need to be kept warm if they're in a dry coop. In fact, as much air as possible and the ability to get up very early is a real benefit to them, especially in the hot summer nights. I've always done it this way, and in all the years I've kept hens I've never had any respiratory infections in any of them.
Also, it's much easier when we go away, to find someone who will check and feed etc once a day, without having to keep on popping round morning and evening as well.
 
All they need is shelter from the wind Chickenfan, the feathers keep them plenty warm even in winter. All 4 Thuringians roost in the beams of their run and not always together in a group and I had a Welsummer who preferred to roost by herself in the beams of her run. The only time I would be worried enough to take them off and put them in the house would be if they were in an advanced state of moulting. If they have just started to roost outside it could be worth checking their coops for redmite though as this can be a reason for them not wanting to go in the house.
 
I've been reading this with interest. Chickenfan, re security of the pop hole - it's possible to have your pop hole come to rest behind a small piece/bar of wood so that potential predators cannot get underneath to lift it (the chickens would have to step over it in the morning). Also the HenSafe has a "both" setting so that both timer and light levels have to be met before the door operates. This would work in a situation where lights come on at night - RedBarnHens.
 
That's a very good idea ChickenJules. Strangely enough I was thinking just the same and will definitely try a piece of wood across the bottom of the pop hole door.

Thank you for the for the information re the HenSafe, I think I'll look into that one. I hope the set-up instructions are easy though.

I also like the idea of keeping the pop hole open, but feel I need to be really sure that my chicken run is as secure from predators as I can make it. I'm quite looking forward to getting home from holiday this weekend so that I can get cracking on all my ideas :) I hope to get my chickens the first week of June.
 

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