chick born with hernia or prolapse

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I've had a chick born at 5am with a round hernia or prolapse around its bottom. I've had this once before and it resolved itself and dried up, but this one is now ruptured and has bled whilst the chick is struggling to get on its feet so it looks very serious. The chick is not yet dried out.
 
I don't think you have much option but to cull it Chickenfan. Any others will peck at it and ultimately it will bleed to death.
 
This is a heartbreaking case as it is a really strong chick that wants to live, but it has bled quite a lot and has its still wet insides hanging out. Is there nothing I can do?
 
It looks the last to hatch 2.5 days lat (of a very poor hatch). I wonder if its worth lowering the humidity?
 
Oh dear, well I have managed to cull by breaking its neck with a pencil - the first time I have done this. Poor thing, its liver was hanging out and it had lost a lot of fluid and bile. It was a very strong chick. I don't know what went wrong or why this happened. The eggs (salmon faverolles) were from a friend. I had another pip on the bottom of the egg but not hatch. The rest did not pip. Mother is 4 years old, the cockerel young and unrelated.
 
Sounds like the humidity was too high initially and the temperature was too low. Perhaps the humidity was too low for hatching as well and the chick stuck to the membrane when it came out? What incubator are you using again Chickenfan?
 
I am using an R-com 20, which cost c£270. The eggs were turning every hour until day 19. Humidity read at 45%, then 65% for the hatch. I got a hygrometer to check and this says it run at 37 degrees rather than 37.5 degrees. The humidity appears to be correct at 45%, though when I set it at 65% it reads 69% on the hygrometer. Something is wrong as you say, as the last two times (since the humidity was set correctly) most of the eggs are developing fully but not hatching. I have only had three out of 15 eggs hatch this time (all my own eggs), and last time was similar, with hardly any eggs hatching. I had a wheaten marans chick that pipped all the way around the egg so that the shell was in two parts, and there was a one inch gap in the white skin so you could clearly see the bird, but this also did not hatch (but I think wheatens are complicated). I need to find out what is wrong, as otherwise I can't use it again with such a loss rate.

I cleaned the movable parts of the incubator by putting them in the dishwasher, then wiping the rest of the incubator with egg wash. Obviously there are internal parts I can't sterilise. Is it possible that one of my bought-in unhatched eggs could have had an infection of some sort and that this is affecting my hatch? The birds hatched have been healthy but I had one recently with a crossed beak and this one whose innards came out.
 
I'm sorry that your chick did not survived.It looked like you did whathever you could.
I had hatched recently chick with yolk sack hunging out.It was actually my broody hen fault,she sqouoshed chick which was just pip thruu eggshell,the egg was opened and he scrumbled out to early.When I had seen that I turned on incy and moved the rest of eggs and him .First hatched chick died from same reason and this is why I had made this decision.The chick was strong and showing willingnes to live so I had given him all the help I could think of.First of all he needed to be separetad from healthy chick,hatched after him.He felt very lonely so I had put some mirror in.This semed to help a bit.For first 5 days he was by himself,after that I had put 2 others with him.He had survived,the bouble was hunging from his bottom for 4 weeks.I'm happy to say that he is strong and healthy and growing ver strong..Have a look at pictures
 

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hello Tygrysek, I am so pleased to read you had a happy outcome for your chick and it got better. It did look bad. Mine was similar and I thought it might be OK to begin with, but then it somehow pulled more of its innards out whilst it was struggling to stand and was bleeding and losing a lot of bile. Even then it carried on struggling to stand, then the liver came out. It was quite a gorey business. I haven't had the courage to dispatch a bird before, but I did with this one. Its cheered me up to hear your bird did so much better. Thank you for the pictures. And what a clever idea using a mirror!
 
That's a nice success story Tygrysek. We had a lone chick and gave him a clock -one of those wind up alarm clocks. Theory is the ticking sounds like mother hens heart beat. He was fine but still needs a clock now. I bought a big tick-tocking kitchen clock from the UK which helped him settle here as he wasn't sleeping well. It's Bottom our pet who is now over 7 years old.

Your hatching problems are the result of your incubator Chickenfan. We have the same machine as have many other people. Everyone has had late hatches with that machine. It is due to the poor insulation of the casing which means that the temperature on the readout isn't the actual temperature of the eggs, particularly the ones at the sides. If you read the very small print in the instructions it says the room temperature must be above 20 degrees. In my experience it needs to be over 25 degrees and that isn't possible without putting the whole machine into a separate heated chamber, which some people have done. The cradle motor failed on ours so we incubate with a Covattutu 24 and use the R-Com Suro 20 just as a hatcher with it wrapped in insulation.
 
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