Baytril dosage

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My memory seems to be failing me today. One of our little Leghorns (Daisy) appears to have some degree of internal infection and we are treating her with Baytril. The bottle I have is for oral use at 10% strength. I seem to remember that it is administered at 0.1mL per Kg bodyweight, once a day for 5 -7 days. But we have on one occasion doubled that for a very bad respiratory infection to 0.2ml for 10 days.

The confusion arises because the bottle from the vet is marked 0.5mL twice a day for 7- 10 days. It says nothing else, but that appears to me to be a double dose for a 5 Kg bird. I picked the bottle up from the vet a while back with 30mL in it, just for general emergency use, so I don't know why it wasn't marked properly? Of course it is Sunday so they are shut.

I'm well aware of the withdrawal period at 28 days or better still permanently. I don't think she will lay again, but never give the Leghorn eggs away anyway. Seen Tim's reference section to it but find the mg to Kg dosage a bit confusing and I don't want to get it wrong.

Can anyone confirm my dosing is correct?
 
Your dosage looks right to me Chris, looked at several sites including the bayer one, they all say 1ml per 10kg which = 0.1ml per kg. Hope this link helps
http://www.animalhealth.bayer.com/fileadmin/media/baycox/Baycox_Einleger.pdf
 
Thanks Dinosaw. That's very reassuring. She seemed to pick up very quickly after the first dose, which I didn't expect. Shed what looks like lash with an egg membrane in it overnight and the whole thing stank rotten! I've only just treated her for sour crop so what's happening exactly I don't know?

Daisy is a very special little girl and I will do all I can to keep her.
 
How old is she Chris?, given the sour crop prior to this I don't suppose it could be a yeast infection?
 
Never heard of a 'yeast infection' Dinowsaw? Do you mean fungal cankers? She is over three -not old for a Pedigree, but Leghorns lay like mad and her sister seems to have stopped altogether. Perhaps they have run out of eggs? In which case losing Snowdrop to dogs on arrival in Dordogne might be a blessing in disguise. Young Bluebell (coming up to two), hatched in the Dordogne from eggs bought (for emergency hatching) with us, is the only one of the three laying. Perhaps we need to breed quickly?

Poo was still 'yuck' this morning, watery with some solids, but no smell and a bit green- to be expected when on antibiotics. She is still talking happily and this afternoon very much more active, with her wings lifted up properly and not hanging down at an angle. She'll get 7 days treatment, if her poos recover properly that is. We have a small amount of Flagyl, but there are no cankers in her mouth or throat.
 
I suppose I specifically mean thrush Chris, the candida yeast as well as causing sour crop can cause intestinal inflammation, gizzard erosion and vent gleet, didn't know if it might have spread from the crop if she had recently had sour crop as it is the same yeast. If she is picking up on the antibiotics probably not as they reputedly make it worse. As you say Leghorns are prodigious layers and probably just coming to the end of her laying.
 
So is there any cure for that Dinosaw? We've never had a case of vent gleet, but we lost Victoria, our last original Buff Orpington, to a strange digestive impaction. I put it down to cankers as she had them in her throat.
 
Copper sulphate or Nystatin in the feed or copper sulphate in the water are what is used for treatment Chris. This link has some info.

http://www.thepoultrysite.com/diseaseinfo/27/candidiasis-moniliasis-thrush

As does the bottom part of this link

http://msucares.com/poultry/diseases/disfungi.htm

Interesting that antibiotic use is one of the stressors for this.
 
May be off the mark slightly here, but I fixed Nancy when she had a fungal infection with caniston cream (the human one for thrush)! She had a daily smear on the end of a cotton bud in her vent when antibiotics failed and all other options tried and failed. Was a last ditch idea after a chat with the vet and worked a treat. Her symptoms where watery poo with bits in, a discharge from her vent that made her feathers vey sticky and smelly. Might be worth a try, she had no symptoms in her mouth or smells from bad breath etc.
 
That's one to remember thanks BabyBantam. Makes sense to me. Her vent is fine though, but small again as she isn't laying.

Daisy is a lot better now and actually did a proper poo yesterday. So I'll see what's in the coop this morning. She still isn't eating much, but talking a lot and running about. The rain yesterday didn't help as they thrive best in warm and dry conditions. Next three days see the sun out and the temperature rising to 29 so I expect the Leghorns to be very happy, whereas the Orpingtons won't be at all.
 
I had a bottle of Baytril from the vet in April for a poorly Brahma, and kept it for future use. I recently had a sneezy wheezy youngster, and took out the Baytril, only to find that once open it has a shelf life of 28 days ( or thereabouts ). I don't know if this could be harmful, or just make the antibiotic ineffective, but I threw the rest of mine away just in case ( expensive mistake ).
 
You did right - and people should only use an antibiotic on chickens if prescribed fresh by a vet who has seen the particular bird which needs it. It's not like Calpol, which can be given ad lib. to poorly children!
 
Our vet isn't sure of the shelf life of Baytril, even though the packaging says 28 days. He is dispensing from a much larger opened bottle anyway. Ours was effective at over a year, even with the 'crystal growth' in it. Vets are now advised that the egg withdrawal is for life, so not something to use indiscriminately.

Daisy was absolutely fine until suddenly going downhill. The reason was her first properly shelled egg for months had settled in her abdomen! She had to be despatched.
 
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