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i keep game birds some of my birds have gone white faced i have been putting the poultry syrup in the water i feed them on smallholders mixed corn & scraps from the table apples & a pears i was thinking of making some garlic water to see if that will bring back the colour any advice would be helpfull
 
You need to be careful about apples and pears because the natural sugars promote bad bacteria in the digestive system. Scraps from the table can rot in the crop. They may now be displaying the effects of sour crop. If the crop is mushy and slightly warm would be the way of telling, together with slimy watery poos.

I'd leave out the poultry syrup and treat them with Avipro Avian, which is a probiotic solution to restore digestive function.
 
I agree with Chris, and would just like to add that you also should just give a small sprinkle of mixed corn as a treat occasionally, and as their main diet they should have whatever complete pellets are appropriate for game birds. (What kind of game birds for you have?) Corn, scraps and fruit give a very unbalanced diet for any kind of poultry and the maize in mixed corn is also very fattening, sometimes even with fatal consequences when the fat obstructs the hens' ovaries. As well as the danger of sour crop from human scraps, they may contain what to birds are high levels of fat, sugar and salt, all potentially bad for birds, though they do love what to them is junk food. A good specialist brand of pellets will provide all the vitamins and minerals they need, and a deficiency might possibly be the cause of their present problems. I don't know whether layers pellets for chickens would be better for them, but I expect your local agricultural store could advise, or someone on here will have the answer.
 
I wasn't sure whether you meant you kept pheasants, when you said game birds - sorry, my ignorance!
As you have bantams, they will do best on any good brand of layers pellets for chickens, and if you cut out the kitchen scraps completely (except for the trimmings of cauli and greens etc, plus some extra fresh green stuff if they're not free ranging on grass) and also reduce the mixed corn to a very small sprinkle once a day, you will know that their nutritional needs are on the right track.
I would love to see some pics of your OEG birds, how many do you have?
 
Very interesting that apples are bad. I find my hens jump up my apple trees to knock them down. Maybe this is how I got sourcrop in two of my birds a year or two ago. I also throw the birds my apple cores. And I give mixed corn last thing in winter and have one or two birds that don't lay so perhaps they have obstructed ovaries. If they slim right down might this resolve?

Do you think it might be worth worming your birds if they are pale Paul?
 
i've not got bantams i keep large old english game my brother got me into it here some pics pobbers pics 171.jpgpobbers pics 315.jpgpobbers pics 994.jpg
 
They're beautiful birds, that cockerel is very splendid, isn't he? I love the last pic, of him with his lady, very elegant. Thanks for posting.
So, having cleared up my misunderstanding about what kind of birds they are, I'm now wondering what exactly you mean by 'white faced.' Do you mean that comb and wattles show a white bloom over them, which could possibly be a fungal infection, (Favus?) or are they showing white feathers where they should be coloured? I expect this would only show up on the brown hen, though, as the cockerel and the other hen are white anyway.
A close up-pic would be very helpful if you could manage it.
 
I like OEG's and he is a beautiful lad, really broad across the chest compared to a lot I have seen. From the photo, while it is far away, zooming it looks like he has white patches above the wattles which could be fungus as Marigold suggest, do a google image search using the words 'favus chickens' and 'ringworm chickens' and see if it is what your birds are suffering from.. .
 
thanks for the in put the hen is oeg white splash with willow green legs when i mean white in the face the comb has been dubed & the wattles they should be red face round the eyes there face should be like the picspobbers pics 310.jpgpobbers pics 1227.jpg hope this helps i have brought garlic granules have put them in the water 1 hot 1 cold see if that will help
 
Still not sure exactly what it us that you're noticing on the combs and wattles. If it's a whitish bloom, it may well be a fungal infection, in which case garlic would be good, but probably they will need some anti fungal cream as well. You could of course get a vet to prescribe, (and please don't take my word for it as I'm not qualified to advise,) but if you don't want to go down the vet route you might consider an antifungal cream from the chemist, like Daktarin as well.... You need a cream with miconazole in it. Just don't say it's for chickens or they might not sell it to you!
If it is Favus, it's chicken ringworm, and can be contagious to humans as well as spreading to other birds. So take care, wear disposable plastic gloves when handling or treating the birds, and wash hands thoroughly afterwards.
This link might help you diagnose
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-recognize-fungal-infections-in-chickens-mol.html
Any other ideas, folks?
 
i will see how i get on with the garlic i'll let my brother look at them he has game birds for years there is not a lot he d'not know about them
 
Please let us know how you get on.
When did you last worm them with Flubenvet? If you haven't treated with Flubenvet in the past 4-6 months, it would probably be a good idea to give them a course as well. A worm burden will pull them down and reduce their condition, so getting them treated will help them to build up their immune systems and fight off any other health problems. Don't rely on herbal remedies or garlic alone, they don't actually kill worms though they may help as a tonic.
 
hi everybody just keeping everybody updated giving them the garlic water getting better brothers been round said there on the mend looking a lot better moved the pens around onto new grass giving them chickweed & dandelion leaves & grass mixed corn & layers not too much though moving pens & building new pens to the back of the garden trying to keep the crowing as far as i can from the neighbours not that i'm bothered i live in a village keep on crowing ha ha :-)17
 
just lacking something got 3, 7 month old stag & 2 hens for sale standard silver duckwings for sale if you know anybody who wants them surplus to stock bred from show stock my brother they are a class act
 
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