Chuck said:
So cows should only lactate for three or four months, long enough to feed the calf ! And horses shouldn't be bred for work.
And didn't I read on another thread that you don't allow your chickens to perch being a heavy breed thus depriving them of their natural instinct to roost on a perch. And didn't your hens become so big because they have been bred that way for fancy not for function.
From what I read on the Forum, my working girls are fed a much more natural diet and live a much more natural life than many others and still manage to lay eggs in the winter.
Sorry Chuck, don't know much about cows, and no body asked what i thought about them and how they are forced to give milk all year round. but i do like milk in my coffee.

Horses should be bred for work, totally agree, my horses work! I wasn't by any means having a go at how you keep your birds, you didn't ask for my advice, so it wasn't given to you. I was mearly giving the poster a different opinion. Which is why i began with ''on the other hand''.....
Not allowing my birds to perch is condusive to their welfare! along with other breeds of heavy fowl, not just orps. My hens are a very large breed, i personally didn't breed them that way, happened way before i kept orps! Although i have been for the past 5 years campaining for folks to breed them smaller like they used to be, and their distant cousins the Australop! None of my birds are 'Orpyphants'! Take a look on my website. Getting them too big is detrimental to their health, fertility and wellbeing as far as i'm concerned.
Personally, i prefere the natural approach, letting birds chill out and moult while having a break from laying. And i thought the person who posted asking for advice kept pet poultry, not working girls. Each to their own hunny.

Every one is different, no need to have a pop just because my opinion is different to yours eh?

I thought this forum was supposed to be friendly, i shall be certainly much more careful on answering posts in future!! (if at all!)
JubesXX