Paralysis- brought back from 'death'.

chrismahon

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Had a real shock days ago during the early morning coop cleaning. One of our young Leghorn Bantams (Poppy) was lying 'dead' on the floor. No signs of life at all but not stone cold, so she must have died in the last hour. She was fine the previous evening and was roosting on her usual perch. We lost another from that group late last year- Snowdrop had a digestive impaction caused by eating wood shavings soaked in her own egg yolk we think? Unfortunately this now leaves just one hen (Daisy) and creates more problems. Poppy was taken inside and laid in a tray ready for burial. The next shock was she was still breathing faintly! First thought was to warm her up so I popped her into my shirt and set up a heat mat. After an hour she was breathing better and seemed warm enough, but still no movement and eyes closed.

Then she started panting heavily and was clearly overheating. The heat mat was turned off and a fan used to blow air over her but she was getting worse. A check of her under-wing temperature said an incredible 41.7C at which point she should be dead. We resorted to 50mg crushed aspirin washed down with 1mL of water- difficult to do because she couldn't swallow. Over the next few hours her temperature dropped to a fairly normal 38C, but still no movement. Then she started to 'leak' some truly revolting smelling liquid from her vent. This carried on infrequently to evening, then a check on her produced a surprise egg! At that stage her eyes began to open but still no body movement. We left her tucked up in a blanket overnight, expecting that she wouldn't last the night.

It was a great relief the following morning. Her eyes were open and she was trying to stand. She consumed a huge amount of water and some wet mash, but no poo all day and all the following night, however in the morning- well I've never seen a bantam do that much!

So 4 days on and she is improving. She eats and drinks OK and is talking, but her legs still aren't able to support her for very long, particularly the left which may have been injured when she fell off the perch in the night? She is on Avipro Avian to restore her gut flora which must have been killed with such a low body temperature. Her poo is grainy and not well digested but we're sure she will be fine in a few more days. Then comes the difficult job or re-introduction.

The big question is what happened to her? We've had 4 cases of temporary paralysis in the last year or so and they have all happened after scratching in dead leaves. The presumption was Botulism caused by eating insects from an un-oxygenated environment. All the large fowl involved were not so badly affected and recovered in a day. But Poppy hasn't access to dead leaves and we think she may have eaten a poisonous Processionary Caterpillar. We've taken and destroyed ten nests out of the pine tree above her run, but there may still be some in the ground underneath? As a precaution all the dead leaves near her run, outside the enclosure, have been removed to allow the ground to be aerated.

So is there a lesson to be learned? Guess it's 'chicken keeping can be problematic' is about it!
 
I guess it's 'Aren't chickens amazing?"
Well done for the emergency care, Chris - what an interesting story. Please keep telling us how she gets on.
 
Wow!
The effect of the asprin on her temperature is a very useful thing to know.
We don’t get processionary moth around here (except on oak less frequently) but at a friends house in France I saw them in masses in pine like yours.
The typical moth life cycle is to overwinter in cocoons on the ground in leaf litter then return to the tree in spring. Horse chestnut leaf miner is very common around here except in city centres where all the leaves are routinely removed. Not so easy in the country where trees are everywhere and leaves blow in from all directions. Of course, pine aren’t deciduous so its more likely they are overwintering in the soil (after marching in their processions down the trunk if I remember right.)
I cant imagine a bird eating an adult processionary caterpillar - they are so incredibly unpalatable, even for a chicken! But the amount you’ve removed from the tree makes them a prime suspect - maybe she ate a cocoon.
If you can stop the life cycle - a sticky bucket round the trunks maybe?
Oh - the caterpillars overwinter in the tree but process to the ground to pupate in the spring (big cocoons so a rotten one - botulism - makes sense.) They don’t live long as moths when they emerge in summer to fly so if you can knock out the local population and your not surrounded by lots of pine/incoming moths (apparently the moths live for one day and have a range of about a mile in which to mate and lay eggs.)
 
She's moving around a lot better today Marigold and preening again, but her digestive flora is wrecked and she hasn't much energy. The food she is eating isn't digesting properly (or at all) so she feels the cold- even in the lounge at 17C. Takes about a week for the Avipro to take noticeable effect and two weeks to be fully effective we've noticed in the past. She won't be going outside for quite some time.

Hopefully cutting out all the nests will have done the trick Rick as this is the second year. But we do have another tree 250 metres away so we may be re-infested. Unfortunately it isn't our tree so we can't simply cut it down, however we move the chickens to our house in August and didn't spot any PC nests in the two trees on the land when we viewed twice. The trees are well away from the site of the chicken enclosure anyway and there are no trees to accumulate leaf litter in the enclosure. Of course that brings the problem of shade in Summer, but sun brollies are very cheap here. PC's cause a lot of dog deaths over here. The locals usually shoot the nests out with shotguns! I agree it is unlikely she ate a caterpillar as we've seen the 'gannet' TNN's watch them and leave them alone. Of course it could be something else she ate?

The aspirin dose is half a 300mg tablet for large fowl, so for a bantam 50mg is the limit. We use aspirin a lot for birds in pain but this is the first time for temperature reduction- My wife Rosie is a nurse and it was her suggestion.
 
what an interesting story Chris, thanks for sharing. PCs are a pest in Portugal too, unfortunately we live in an area known for its pine.....although I have no fowl at the moment for them to be a problem with. Apparently there are posters up in various places warning of the dangers to dogs and humans although obviously the locals don't really need any warning, the pests are everywhere in season. Good luck with your little bantam.
 
I hope she recovers fully, Chris. I've just had to look up Processionary Caterpillar as I've never heard of it before.
 
We dismissed one property here due to a combination of many niggly things, one of which was the number of Pine trees we would have to fell to deal with PC's MrsBiscuit. It would have left the hedgerow with large gaps in it and removed half the sun shelter from the property. Accepting we would have had fuel for a couple of years, the amount of work was huge.

Poppy is wandering about the lounge at the moment and seems fine ColinB, although we are now trying to wean her off mash and back onto pellets. The first encounter with her sister went badly- she beat Daisy up, even though Daisy was the top hen. We are waiting for the weather to improve and will put them in a temporary run and coop which is unknown ground to both. Hopefully they will sort themselves out less violently, but the Leghorn Bantams are the wildest breed we have -many a large fowl has regretted the meeting!
 
We managed the re-introduction by putting them both in an unfamiliar place and giving them a bowl of mash as a distraction. Whilst her digestion has much improved strangely she still hasn't got full strength in her legs and her wings are even weaker- presume the toxins are lingering in the largest muscles?
 
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