Does anyone know what breed these are ?

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I recently got these bids but i dont know what breed they are, could someone please help? i think they may be dutch bantams but i dont know thanks145977997.jpgView attachment 2View attachment 2
 

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They look nice, a bit on the large size and leggy for Dutch so maybe a dutch cross?
 
Too big for pure-bred Dutch I would say, They could well be black red Phoenix/Yokohama bantams, judging by the length of the more developed male's tail coverts, or as Foxy suggests, there could be Dutch blood in there? What were they sold to you as? Do you know if the vendor kept either of these breeds? and do you have any Pullets or older females at all?. . . . .
 
The Cock sure looks like a large gold dutch, but as already said they look to big to be true's. I'm going for mixed breed.
 
Previous owner knew nothing about them and just said that they were all cocks
 
Think they are yoko/phoenix bantams, look similar to my friends birds. very nice.
 

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