Man vs. Mouse

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Re: Man vs. Mouse

Post by rick » Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:41 am

Yes, some angle aluminum or steel at a reasonable price would do the trick to pin down the wire to the frame Its only in some places - most have battens to do the same. I'm amazed by the way they just walk through 1/2" hex like mouse ghosts! - but square is too small. I think its because they need just that tiny bit of extra width to get their shoulders through.
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Re: Man vs. Mouse

Post by rick » Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:03 pm

If they keep this up I,ll open the back door one morning to find that the whole run, chickens and all, has disappeared down a big hole! :)
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Re: Man vs. Mouse

Post by chrismahon » Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:25 pm

Bit worrying that Rick. Not only could a chicken get its foot stuck, but perhaps the whole floor is undermined with tunnels and is becoming unstable? The short-tailed field voles here can dig at an alarming rate- perhaps a metre per night, beaten only by our mole (which so far has avoided the traps) which can dig several metres in a night.

I've read that onions put mice off- complete rubbish! In one pig stye we have hung our crop of onions and that's the trap that catches the most. I can also say that the smell of petrol, diesel, paraffin and creosote have no effect either as the trap in that stye has caught plenty. Perhaps pour a sharp sand/ cement slurry down that hole?
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Re: Man vs. Mouse

Post by rick » Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:43 pm

I'm hoping I don't have to render the whole floor Chris! The blocks in the middle of the garden (where the run is) were laid pretty tight. I think what they are doing is getting in and then checking out every promising crevice from above and starting a new tunnel in/out from there. If they found that gap from below then the scale of their mining and spoil disposal operation will be hard to counter!
Their energy is remarkable - I think I might go in for some pellets for breakfast!
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Re: Man vs. Mouse

Post by rick » Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:07 pm

No sign of mice now for the past few days. No doubt they will find a chink in the defenses sometime but for the moment...
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Re: Man vs. Mouse

Post by chrismahon » Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:34 am

We had a week here with no mice either Rick- must have been too cold. But they have started moving again with one or two each morning. Guess we'll never get completely rid of them?

It occurred to me that if they can't get food from you they will move to your neighbours. That might cause some upset, so perhaps you should consider the trap option?
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Re: Man vs. Mouse

Post by Marigold » Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:59 am

As your neighbours already feed the birds, Rick, I expect they already have mice- under their shed, maybe. Not so likely to be a problem if they don't keep chickens, so long as they can't get indoors. Anyway, if there is a problem next door, it's not yours-and not as bad as rats.
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Re: Man vs. Mouse

Post by rick » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:13 am

I do feel some responsibility for providing mouse Shangri la for several years. With the door now closed (or at least very challenging for even the youngsters) then the population should get a hard knock this winter. They have always been visitors rather than residents of the run, even when they had the backs of the nest box (never any nests of their own.) Under the shed is undoubtedly mouse HQ. My neighbor on the other side has been keeping the bird seed mostly contained to the hanging feeders lately and the floor under there is the cat's favorite haunt.
The only real concern has been from my neighbor at the back who owns the cat because the number of offering have risen steeply this year. That, along with a worry of mine that the mice could be a health hazard for my hens, is what prompted the project.
For this situation here, I think, there would now be a point to setting a trap in the run - to take out the most resourceful and determined mice that do manage to get in (and out again.)
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Re: Man vs. Mouse

Post by Marigold » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:02 pm

I don't know if it's true, but have read that, where there are mice, you won't get rats. If so, maybe the mice are not so bad?
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Re: Man vs. Mouse

Post by rick » Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:37 pm

Thanks Marigold! With all the gardens and bird feeders down the street (the narrow corridor of greenery and trees along the backs that the sparrows use as a motorway) I doubt that the mice will be completely destitute from my efforts. We do have the occasional rat pass through, including one that got stuck in our cellar once, but they are very infrequent and mostly down by the river where folks throw bread for the ducks and gulls.
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