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Stroke?

Post by Marigold » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:08 pm

This morning when I went to see the hens I found Marigold, my 5-year-old Buff Sussex, lying on her side on the floor next to the coop, lags waving faintly, unable to get up. I gently lifted and examined her, but couldn't find any external injury or problem with her legs, but she fell over again on her right side when I put her down, and her right wing looked a bit droopy. I put her back in a nestbox for an hour or two, to see how she would get on.
I lifted her out later, and found she could now walk, slowly and very stiffly, and made her way to the drinker and had a long drink, followed by a large, runny, very smelly poo. There have been similar poos in the coop for a while, but until today I didn't know who did them.
She hasn't been quite herself for a week or two now, nothing major, just hangs back at treats time when the others all pile in to the goodies, but has been eating if I give her some to herself. Seems as if she's dropped down the pecking order, having been second only to Nutmeg for some years. She hasn't laid for months, not since her last broody spell back in July, so at this time of year I think egg problems can be ruled out. It looks like a stroke to me, but I'm a bit puzzled by her apparent partial recovery. I expected her to go rapidly downhill when I made her comfortable in the coop.
Any ideas, folks?
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Re: Stroke?

Post by chrismahon » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:33 pm

Need to check her abdomen for swelling Marigold. She may not be laying full eggs but could be missing the oviduct- something we have encountered after broodiness for some reason. The very stinky poos might be a sign of internal infection, so possible peritonitis. If there is internal pressure it may be stopping her pooing, so when she eventually does it relieves the discomfort? Hope you manage to sort to out -guess a trip to the vet is in order?
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Re: Stroke?

Post by dinosaw » Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:39 pm

Sorry to hear about this Marigold. A stroke is a result of blood supply to the brain being cut, if that supply has been reinstated then some level of function would return. I know that in humans depending on the severity of the stroke the brain learns to re-route itself and given everything in chickens is happening at x10 speed compared to humans it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that this is what has happened to Marigold. Fingers crossed for her.
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Re: Stroke?

Post by Marigold » Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:21 pm

Thank you both for advice. She did seem to perk up quite a lot as the day went on, was able to get up under her own steam and join in round the plate of mash at teatime and ate a reasonable amount. I've just been down to see if she could manage the ramp into the coop at dusk, or if she needed any help, but I watched her getting up OK, although rather awkward. Her right wing is droopy, though, on the same side as her lame leg, which might indicate a stroke. Of course she may also have an internal infection, but her abdomen feels OK to me. When she reached the drinker this morning, she was very thirsty, so I don't know how long she had been lying unable to get up. As I leave the pophole open all the time I don't usually check to see they've all gone to roost, so she might even have been lying there all night, and got hungry and thirsty. Still, it was a warm night and the run is dry, so this wouldn't have harmed her.
I'll see how she gets on over the weekend, as she has improved during today, - probably she hasn't got long and a one-way ticket to the vet is on the cards for next week.
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Re: Stroke?

Post by Icemaiden » Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:59 pm

Hi Marigold.
Sorry to hear that your namesake is struggling- I do hope that she pulls through and doesn't have to go to the vet's.
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Re: Stroke?

Post by Marigold » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:11 pm

Found this on the internet which was encouraging.
https://reverendhellfire.wordpress.com/2011/07/24/764/
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Re: Stroke?

Post by rick » Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:03 am

Looks like the droopy wing is a classic sign. Hope it works out. The music thing is very interesting - never thought of putting a radio in the coop for entertainment.
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Re: Stroke?

Post by chrismahon » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:58 am

We leave the classical music station on for Bottom (who is very ill at the moment) when we go out. We also play classical music to chicks because it improves their growth rate.

You would know if the abdomen was swollen Marigold because it would be rock solid and she will walk a bit 'penguin-like'. Sounds like it isn't that and reading the article a stroke is more likely. Perhaps that's what happened to Claude (avatar) last year when he fell off the perch in the night?
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Re: Stroke?

Post by valeriebutterley » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:09 am

So sorry to read about Marigold, hope she recovers well, as apparently they can. It does sound like a stroke.
I loved the story of Chooky and her recovery, chicks are nowhere as dumb as people think, and I have heard before that chicks love music.
Hope she recovers to lead you a merry dance as an old lady who needs attention in her retirement.
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Re: Stroke?

Post by Marigold » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:50 am

I went down at 7.15 this morning to see if she had managed to get herself out of the coop. All of them were up, grouped at the far end of the run where the food and water is, including Marigold. Her wing was a bit droopy stil, but much less than yesterday, and she was walking around slowly but steadily. To be honest, if I hadn't been looking for problems I probably wouldn't have spotted that anything might be wrong with her. She certainly didn't have that hunched-up penguin stance which is typical of abdominal infections, and looked a different bird from the one I found collapsed and unable to get up 24 hours earlier. Very strange creatures, chickens!
Of course, if it was a T.I.A, she may have another at some point but she seems OK at the moment. Thanks for your good wishes, Val - I too intend to be an old lady who leads people a merry dance in her retirement!
Sorry to hear Bottom is struggling, Chris. Please give him a cuddle from me.
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