Can you breed from birds treated for myoplasma?

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Thats would be the logic, however I sell my birds on and dont want to be irresponsible, so at the moment I am leaning towards keeping them if they dont go down with it. Wha=t I dont know is the impact of the antibiotics in terms of masking symtoms and so tramsmitting disease.
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The antibiotics only treat secondary bacterial infections Chickenbrain. They have to fight the virus off themselves.
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OH, so it is a virus then? I thought it was a bacterial infection
I had to cull another bird today. I must say I am very down. I have disinfected everything and am giving them supplements. It comes hard on the heels of having to put two cats down and having an incubator failure and a couple of chicks dying!
The whole area smells of disinfectant.

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I have just looked it up, apparently they are neither viruses or bacterium.
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Chickenbrain2009 wrote:OH, so it is a virus then? I thought it was a bacterial infection
I had to cull another bird today. I must say I am very down. I have disinfected everything and am giving them supplements. It comes hard on the heels of having to put two cats down and having an incubator failure and a couple of chicks dying!
The whole area smells of disinfectant.

Pam
So sorry, Pam, you are going through a really wretched time. If all keepers were as responsible as you, maybe less disease would get passed around from the sale of apparently healthy birds from infected flocks, though. Not that that's any comfort to you. How many have you got left now?
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Echo Marigolds sentiments here too Pam, very sorry to hear :(

It is heart wrenching to deal with an outbreak of a disease in a flock, and I know how you feel, everything seems to go wrong at once at you can be left thinking what am I doing wrong? If it's any consolation I went through this earlier this year and had to make some very difficult decisions at the time.

You sound very conscientious and committed to the health and welfare of all your animals, both furred and feathered! I have no doubt you will get through this.
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Thank you,
I am trying to console myself that this is how you learn.

I have four left from the original flock.
Six left in the adjacent pen, to date none of them have contracted it, but I am worried because it has my favourite breeding birds in there,
plus four new birds which were, and still are bing kept seperate in another pen.
For some reason two of my new week old chicks have suddently died, in a matter of a few short hours, they were healthy enough when I got them as I wanted to have some different polands. As did another new arrival, ten weeks old, and kept seperate. The ten week old was running around in the morning and on her way out a few hours later. The other two in the same pen, from the same dealer seem fine.

What I dont know now is whether I can breed from the aracuana cockeral in the same pen the other have died in. When I was disinfecting everything yesterday the survivors looked alright but they seem to go downhill very quickly. I am checking the birds regularly, giving them supplements etc, and washing my hands carefully. I am convinced what we really need is some decent sunshine. I keep bees as well and three out of four of my hives died of starvation! And now we have foul brood in the area so the bee inspector has to come round.

The reason the bees died was because of the weather! I was simultaneously looking for my cat, who had wandered off most unusually, he was diabetic. I searched non stop day and night for him for four days and nights and eventually found him miles away. The reason he had survived was because he was down with hypothermia! I rushed him to the vet and eventually he ended up at the Royal Veterinary College where I had to put him down because he was suffering from kidney failure. That was just a month after having to out my other can down for lymphoma!

Meanwhile my house is in a tip, my garden is overgrown and they are making redundancies at work, which is why I am tring to learn how to breed poultry!!

Apart from anything else this is costing me a fortune.
Lifes like this sometimes, you just have to ride it out. More than anything I want it to stop raining!

Pam
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I have however had some good news. I spoke to a specialist poultry vet today, who seemed completely unphased, said it was simple to treat and that I could breed from them afterwards.
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Oh Pam/Chickenbrain,
What an awful time you must be having.... Has anything got any better since your last post? I know where you must be coming from because I feel the same way at the moment. I'm having problems with my birds and I just cant seem to fix it no matter what I do.
Like you, I pride myself on having clean, well cared for birds. I never had a problem before and my birds looked wonderful. But quite frankly if anyone saw one of my trios right now I swear theyd call the rspca! Mega moult and bald patches that just dont seem to be growing back (Despite poultry tonic, ACV, cod liver oil etc etc) One appears to have symptoms of gape worm (Stupid me for only using natural wormers!) Another either has gape worm too or an upper respiritory infection and then I had a chick hatch from some bought in eggs that appears to have some sort of mico plasma and another two with curled toes (Which I did manage to fix with surgical tape and cocktail sticks- My only achievement so far!) Also a 2 week old chick with an eye infection (Probably Micoplasma too as no amount of optrex/chlrophenic is easing it) Makes me feel very down, like my flock is diseased and dirty now. Ive put every chicken and chick on Tylan soluable and Ivermectin on the adult birds for worms. It feels like a full time job that Im not enjoying at the moment. I certainly dont mind caring for them but I wish I could see signs of improvement to cheer me up.
I definately think the weather isnt helping. It wouldnt suprise me if the gape worm has been brought in by the stupid amounts of slugs we have at the moment. Ive never seen so many! The chick with the eye infection/micoplasma is strange though as it developed before I had any signs of it in any other bird (The chick that hatched with it hadnt hatched at the time) and no other chick or adult had any symptoms. It was and still is just one watery eye, no other symptoms but doesnt seem to be responding to the Tylan which its been on 4 days now so that suggests its a virus rather than an infection. - I shall post elsewhere to see if anyone has any ideas.
Sorry for rambling on in your post.....A problem shared eh :o)
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Re: Can you breed from birds treated for myoplasma?

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Well, it depends which part of the bird was affected and how and by which strain.
If the ovaries were affected it will be transmitted through the eggs... but then it may also not be!!

I have previously used Myco hens eggs and incubated them, and kept them away from the parents, and the resulting young were strong, healthy and Myco free, but again, this depends on the strain, etcetera.
You will never know
Unless you give it a go!!!

http://enisrarebreedchickens.wura.co.uk
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