Poorly Peckford - Any ideas please?

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Re: Poorly Peckford - Any ideas please?

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Tried to check his throat, but couldn't. His mouth looks ok. But couldn't see much further. My daughter was helping to keep him calm and holding his head, but I couldn't hold his mouth open wide enough for long enough. I am not very good at this to be fair... Probably too soft and worried I might hurt him.
He's eaten a little, a couple times today. He's had a couple drinks, with added apple cider vinegar and garlic extract. He has voiced his grumpiness at us handling him but no cockledoodledoo...
His eye is still the same, shut and swollen a little.
But for the most part of the day he's been roosting. My daughter said she's taken him out of his roosting box a couple times. This is when he had something to eat.
My daughter had a towel on her whilst she was holding him for the throat exam - and just as well as he's the biggest poo...! Still a little soft, but a lot more solid and more than yesterday... Not sure if it's a good sign though...
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Sorry to hear his, Sandrine. If you are not going to take him to the vet and can't find any immediate cause for his problems, it will probably be best just to leave him quietly somewhere away from the others and see how he is in the morning. Chickens do sometimes just recover overnight when left in peace, and however tame he is, handling him and trying unsuccessfully to look inside his mouth will only distress him and won't be helpful. If he's not better in the morning, or at least if you can't pin down his symptoms, you'll either need to take him to the vet; or encourage him to eat and drink and then leave him to rest; or if he's a lot worse, you may need to consider dispatching him. Trouble with chickens is that their systems are so different from ours that treatment is often on a 'best guess' basis, however experienced one may be. They can and do go up and down within a few hours, and when you know a bird well, it's usually possible to tell which way things are going. As he seems to be eating and drinking a little, that's a good sign. On your own, without a vets advice, there's really not much else you can do. When one of mine is ill with an ailment I'm uncertain about diagnosing for myself, which is quite rare, I've decided not to take them to the vet any more - they usually only get stuffed with broad-spectrum antibiotics that we really shouldn't be using in animals, and the charges are very high for what is often a hit-or-miss treatment.
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I hear you Marigold... That's exactly why I have been humming and harring about taking him to the vet.
It's the first time that I have had a poorly chicken.
I am not going to attempt to look in his throat again.
I will keep an eye on him and see if he carries on trying to eat and drink today. If he looks like he is getting worse, in distress, suffering etc, then a decision will be made quickly as I wouldn't want him to be suffering needlessly...

Thank you all
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Sorry to hear about Peckford.
Can't comment on his ailment as it isn't something that has happening to any of ours yet. I usually take the same line as marigold, chickens like most animals can recover quickly, if not so be it. Most vets do just prescribe their antibiotic of choice and charge a fortune. We just adopt the put in quiet place and wait and see approach and if the bird appears to go downhill or is suffering, we dispatch.
Good luck with him Sandrine
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It's different if a bird has an obvious injury, which can be cleaned up and treated, or if the ailment is a common one with definite, treatable symptoms, like a blocked crop. The problem is when the bird is showing symptoms of something more unusual or invisibly internal, as seems to be the case here.
How is he today, Sandrine?
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Ah it would seem that I have done it again and pressed the wrong button - my earlier post has disappeared!

Anyway, great news to report today.... He came out of the roosting box on his own this morning, ate and drank before getting more rest. Then when I went to see him after work, he was out again, eating, standing up much taller too. His eye isn't swollen anymore, and ever so slightly open. And he's treated us to a few cockledoodledoos as well! (Although my husband didn't as impressed at hearing Peckford again lol 😅 though I am sure he's just as relieved as I am at knowing that he's on the mend). One more night in our makeshift "hospital" and I am pretty sure he'll be fine and dandy to go back to his girls... ☺️
So from now on, I will adopt the same approach as you Marigold and Bigyetiman... 😉
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What a relief! I'm so glad to hear he's better. Keep us posted on progress!
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That's brilliant news.
I think Marigolds advice was more informative than mine, but thanks anyway.
When we were newbies to hen keeping and before we found this fantastic forum, we did go to a vet because we weren't sure a couple of times. We just found that vets seems to assume most things will be worms, if not just give them antibiotics.
It is just great to have such knowledgeable people like Marigold with the hindsight of many years experience to help us all out.
Keep getting better Peckford :D
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Thanks for the thumbs-up, BYM, but really I don't have very much experience with sick chickens. Like many of us, what I've learned comes mainly from this forum. Mine usually live to draw their pensions, much longer than I really want them to!
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Peckford has rejoined his girls. He was really chumping at the bits tbf and after a further thorough examination, I let him loose in the garden... He went straight for his favourite, little Booboo. His eye is still closed in the morning and practically open in the evening. But there is nothing apparently wrong with him. His behaviour doesn't show any signs of something wrong anymore, he eats, he drinks... He has fun with the girls. Not heard him crow much since he was still in his hospital room the other day. But again, no apparent reason why. So I am just letting him be, and keeping an eye on him...
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