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Re: New Red Mite product, eco friendly, long lasting

Postby Minorcafan » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:50 pm

I would be interested but £8.00 for 100g postage?????
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Re: New Red Mite product, eco friendly, long lasting

Postby Poultrykeeper Admin » Thu Jul 06, 2017 3:51 pm

Hi Minorcafan,

The post by Mitemagic has been removed.They posted advertising and links without permission. Our forum rules don't allow this - if we allow one, we would need to allow all, but also we have affiliate agreements with other companies selling anti-mite products from some of the pages on the main pk site. Sales of those products through the links on the site generate a small stream of income which ultimately pays the (almost $3K now) hosting charges we have each year to keep things running.

Sorry to leave you stranded on this one...I didn't get to the post quickly enough.

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Re: New Red Mite product, eco friendly, long lasting

Postby Minorcafan » Sat Sep 02, 2017 5:11 pm

I've just got rid of a severe infestation of red mite. Sprinkled with petrol and burned the shed to the ground,
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Re: New Red Mite product, eco friendly, long lasting

Postby rick » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:15 pm

I was amazed at what happened with our red mite after coming back from holiday. Before the crew went to boarding while we were away I had got the red mite down to a tiny amount that would breed until i spotted them and then be knocked down again on about a 3 week cycle. I have a rubber mat under the roost bar without any diatom under and if they are around they show up under there. I had presumed that they all hid under there in the day but...
Before going away, and with the chooks elsewhere, I took everything out of the run and jet washed it. The mats were washed too and left out in the sun. When we got back I put everything back in place - needless to say there were no obvious mite anywhere - and then fetched the chooks home. After 2 days of being back in I looked under the mat, not expecting to see any mite - maybe a few as before. There were millions of them in 4 colonies between the mat and the shelf. They all got squished and there have been none since (?)
I wonder - not surprisingly they don't like to gather where there are traces of squished mite and that may mean that they had been trekking quite a long way up to the perch at night from somewhere that isn't treated with diatom (there are places but it seems like a long way!). After the best part of 3 weeks after washing maybe the traces had gone so they decided that under the mat was safe again. But for them to reappear in such numbers in only a couple of days was surprising.

The only thing that makes sense is, maybe, the active population was very small but there was a backlog of eggs around that all, hungrily, hatched at the same time when they sensed that chickens had returned?

Sorry to go on but another thing has occurred to me while writing this - the colonies were in stripes across the bottom of the mat and these may have been the cleanest bits left by the jet. I may wash the mat again and write 'red mite' with the lance. It would be pretty cool if they took up residence in that pattern! :)
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Re: New Red Mite product, eco friendly, long lasting

Postby Margaid » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:18 pm

They may not have been in the hen house, they could have been somewhere outside. Apparently they will hide away and trek quite long distances when the hens are around again. Hope you don't get a recurrence at that level!
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Re: New Red Mite product, eco friendly, long lasting

Postby Marigold » Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:08 am

Sorry to say, I'm not surprised that you had such an outbreak after boarding your birds. I expect they brought it back with them. The mite would be unlikely to breed so fast in the absence of a host, when you had done so much to clean up after the hens left.
Next time, could you possibly find a reliable teenager to come in and look after them? The 14-year-old who looks after mine is just brilliant, her mum says she spends hours just sitting in the run and watching the hens when the tasks are done. On our return from holiday last week, she presented me with some beautiful blackberry and apple crumble cake, made from our hens' eggs. Well worth £20 in wages for a week's peace of mind!
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Re: New Red Mite product, eco friendly, long lasting

Postby rick » Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:49 am

Unfortunately, the nearby family households and connections, like when our boys were going through school, have gone from around here now and so there is no promising pool for the recruitment of sitters - not ones who you would feel you knew well enough to give the keys of your house to anyway.
There is always that chance that they could bring something back with them (the chickens not the teenagers :) ) although, to be fair, Jacqueline runs a pretty tight ship - most likely to pick up some lice (although that didn't happen.) Red mite don't live on the birds during the day so there shouldn't (in theory) have been any on them when I brought them home.
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Re: New Red Mite product, eco friendly, long lasting

Postby Marigold » Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:12 pm

I'm not sure about that, Rick - its pretty well established that redmite can and does arrive in a run when shaken off the feathers of wild birds, perhaps when they perch on trees over the run, or on the coop itself, so if wild birds can carry it, I suppose chickens can as well. I can only say that so far, I've never had any redmite in my coop or run, which is roofed and made of 1/2" mesh to exclude wild birds. Another friend, an experienced keeper, was similarly clean of redmite for years but got a really bad infestation when she accidentally left the door of an unused run open for an hour or two, and returned to find a pigeon preening itself on an upturned bucket. The bucket was crawling with redmite and she had great difficulty in containing the outbreak which ensued. I expect it will arrive in my run some day, but so far, so good, for quite a few years now.
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Re: New Red Mite product, eco friendly, long lasting

Postby rick » Sun Sep 03, 2017 2:27 pm

Could be Marigold - if they arrived on a pigeon in the daytime then they must have been on the bird. I just haven't seen them on my hens in the day even when I know mite have been around in clusters the run (waiting for their nocturnal lunch!)
They first arrived here in a batch of bagged, damp bark chippings a couple of years ago before I had learnt to be careful about such things.
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Re: New Red Mite product, eco friendly, long lasting

Postby MiteMagic » Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:46 am

I have read this post with interest, and would like to make a few comments and suggestions if I may. I respect Tim's position and the forum rules, so will make no mention of my new red mite product.

There are a few issues that are being overlooked here. Firstly, there is no reason whatsoever to burn any hut due to red mite anymore and incur the costs of a new hut - this didn't work for me in any event - I burned the hut, nestboxes, perches, bedding - all contents of the hen hut went up in flames!, I and more importantly my birds received around two weeks relief from the dreaded red mite before they followed the birds to their new hut. Futile, expensive waste of time!

Relating to the holiday re-infestation. Jet-washing or hose-piping a hut is the single biggest mistake any hen keeper can make. The water pressure may kill a few, but the vast majority will survive in the surrounding area. All they simply do is dry themselves off and move back in. It is also highly likely that mite eggs are not removed in this process, so they hatch.

Red mite that are not feeding on blood cannot breed, therefore they do not lay eggs, so this issue can be eliminated mostly.

Red Mite are migrating crawling ecto-parasites, they cannot fly or jump. It is highly likely that some mites were returned to the hut from the boarding facility. It is completely true that red mite do not live on the bird, they only feed from the bird at night as they try to sleep. However, to migrate they must hitch-hike a ride on something, or someone. This does not necessarily mean the hens were responsible - the possibility exists for mites to hitch a ride on humans (clothing or footwear), birds, animal crates etc. You only need to carry one mite back to any hut to begin a new re-infestation. With a breeding lifecycle of 7 days, its not a long process. Red mite will also hitch a ride and attack mice, rats, wild birds etc who will carry them to their new home as they visit various gardens in search of food.

I would suggest that before using any such boarding facility, a conversation should be had regarding their red mite eradication procedures, and be very wary if creosote or lime has been used - not only are these illegal to use in egg laying hen facilities, they are dangerous to bird health and egg contamination. Creosote is carcinogenic (cancer causing), amongst many other life threatening possibilities) and lime is caustic (burns). You should inspect the premises thoroughly prior to agreeing any boarding, to satisfy yourself an infestation of red mite does not exist. I also suggest that you check your clothing before getting back into your car, and certainly change clothing and launder on a very hot wash, then take a long shower once you return home, before going anywhere near your hen huts. Check your car also for stray mites.

When visiting breeder facilities and poultry auctions, undertake the same checks. ALL new birds should be quarantined on every occasion, not only to guard against red mite but to prevent other diseases from being introduced to your flock. Once you are happy, after a week at least, then and only then should introduction occur.

Until red mite are eradicated from every hen hut, smallholding and farm their numbers will continue to proliferate, and inadvertently human behaviour assists their travel between premises to carry out their deadly habits.
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