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Re: hens loosing feathers

Post by rick » Sat Dec 30, 2017 2:19 pm

Sounds like quite a party!
Just out of interest, do you have a lot of weed on your allotment?
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Post by Hen-Gen » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:13 pm

rick wrote:Sounds like quite a party!
Just out of interest, do you have a lot of weed on your allotment?
Are you suggesting urinary incontinence?
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Re: hens loosing feathers

Post by Marigold » Sat Dec 30, 2017 3:19 pm

You can buy Bumpa Bits which fit over their beaks so they can eat but not peck each other, but I think it would be best to get a vets opinion before you do anything else, like putting some of them in to another run with the pure-breds. If they did have an infestation it might spread to the other birds. Is it just the hybrids that are missing feathers or are the purebreds affected as well? Do you have 15 hens in total, or are there 13 hybrids, 2 sussex and some extra bantams? Did moving the Sussex out of the main run make any difference to the ones that were left?
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Re: hens loosing feathers

Post by dye29 » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:20 pm

just a update yes 13 hybrids only in that run no bantams or anything there all ok in other runs , been to vet today just with one hen and i really wasnt happy to me they didnt have a clue they just said it molting dont worry theyll grow back even though i told them there this years birds ect . so 35 pound down and no difference ,
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Re: hens loosing feathers

Post by Marigold » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:56 pm

Thats the problem with vets, many of them are not trained to help with poultry. While I was doing my chickens today I thought 'I must warn Dye to ask the vets whether they are experienced with chickens", not realising that you'd already fixed up your appointment. Most vet practices nowadays have a website and its worth having a look beforehand and also ringing up and asking if you can see a poultry specialist. If the vet told you that a whole lot of first-year hybrids were 'just moulting' they obviously didn't have a clue as hybrids don't do a normal moult until their second winter, they should just carry on laying nearly every day in their first winter. Are your girls still laying, Dye?
Whereabouts do you live? Maybe someone nearby can recommend a good poultry vet. There's also a list of recommended vets on Poultrykeeper https://poultrykeeper.com/poultry-vets/ but i'm not certain how up to date it is.
(BTW, has anyone got a good vet to add to this list? If so, please send a message to Tim with the details, to add to the list.)
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Re: hens loosing feathers

Post by dye29 » Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:49 pm

ill take pic of hen tomorow and post see what you think
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Re: hens loosing feathers

Post by rick » Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:05 am

Pictures will speak a thousand words Dye, so if you can that will help a lot. You probably will need to resize images before posting - 640 x 480 or the other way round will always work.
though I agree, there are some vets that are more familiar with chickens - all veterinary opinions are worth having (though they may be missing some finer points) they have studied bird biology to a greater degree than they necessarily divulge in a consultation. A good bird vet, though, has experience to inform their comments that go beyond the commercial.
In this case the observation that they are this years birds is worth noting. If they are hybrids then they may well have not bothered with re-feathering yet.
... I couldn't held being incredulous when you said they were all mounting each other and whether introducing several cockerels was to be taken seroiusly.
Apparently, peeing on the compost is a good idea :)
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Re: hens loosing feathers

Post by chrismahon » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:21 am

Reading back in the post they are hybrids and still laying. Whilst they may have partially moulted or eating each others feathers it will be the case that they can't grow new feathers whilst still laying as they generally can do either one or the other. Increasing the protein level in their feed may help as said but unless the feed is of good quality there is always the possibility that they are deficient in a trace mineral element or vitamin and this is causing their odd behaviour. What pellets are you feeding them Dye29?
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Re: hens loosing feathers

Post by dye29 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:32 am

still laying random though one day out of 13 hens i get 6 eggs then maybe 8 sometimes 10 but usually 6 . i have them on ansons food seems ok like i said i cut the maize out ages ago and started a month a go with the vitamin stuff you put in water to help them after a mite infest
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Re: hens loosing feathers

Post by chrismahon » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:35 am

Not familiar with Ansons pellets Dye29. The best when I left England were Dodson & Horrell (but the pellets were rather big), Smallholder (which we used) and Garvo (which we couldn't get locally).

Guess it's just going to be a waiting game as they may simply be lacking sunshine to produce vitamin D- I gather from the forecasts I see that England has been rather short of sunshine recently?
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