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Re: chicktec egg wash

Postby dinosaw » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:24 pm

Depends what you are keeping your chickens for, the farmer will top his at 72 weeks and get a new batch in so he won't care about fatty livers etc because his chickens will be gone before that develops. If you wan't your chickens to last longer then just keep them on layers. Doubt the spray actually caused them to peck more, more likely than not just a coincidence that you noticed it more after you sprayed them.
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Re: chicktec egg wash

Postby Marigold » Tue Dec 05, 2017 4:12 pm

Hen-Gen wrote:Sorry to sound miserable, Steven, but my birds get no treats/dietary additives at all apart from the odd cabbage to alleviate boredom if any feather pecking breaks out. Generally I feed red cabbage because it makes their poo blue so you can see that they're all getting some.
I hold the view that layers pellets and/or breeders pellets are a well balanced diet and that additives just upset this balance.
To put it bluntly I suspect that the feeding of treats has less to do with the chickens needs and more to do with the owners need to nurture.


Totally agree with this, HenGen. Keeping chickens properly, worming regularly and feeding good -quality food is expensive enough as it is, without lots of extras that they don't want or need. Mine seem to go on for years on end under my policy of benign neglect, with no illnesses or other problem, in fact I wish some of them were a bit less long lived so I could have room for some more productive youngsters!
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Re: chicktec egg wash

Postby rick » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:05 pm

Hen-Gen wrote:Generally I feed red cabbage because it makes their poo blue...


This I have to see :D

I have got a good culture of lacto-bacteria going in the past couple of weeks to mix in with breakfast pellets. Seems to have given Bonnie and Aerial a digestive boost (Bonnie in particular.) A couple of years ago I tried getting a sour dough going (for bread not for the chickens) but it didn't work very well. Scratch and rolled oats with some whole wheat in husks with mineral water - pow - smells like sour yogurt and is fermenting like crazy.
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Re: chicktec egg wash

Postby dye29 » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:55 pm

right ill try a different approach then the layers i get are in plain bag 25kg for 8.25 so prob not the best what is a good make to buy and how much protein content do they need
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Re: chicktec egg wash

Postby Marigold » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:16 pm

I use Dodson and Horrel, mainly because they're a good brand with no cheap chemical additives and also because I can order them online from the Pets at Home website and get free delivery if I spend £35. This is a great help to me as the bags are so heavy to collect in the car. I think they're £12.50 for a 20- kilo bag but are often on offer for less if you buy two bags or a multiple of two of course. See http://www.petsathome.com/shop/en/pets/ ... ckens-20kg :-)10
Whatever brand you get, you need to read the ingredients list carefully. The cheaper brands usually have a lot of soya in them which isn't good, and often have artificial colourings to improve egg colour. Dodson and Horrell and other good brands may contain natural colourants such as marigold petals. Have a look at the Dodson and Horrell link above and click to see what good quality pellets should contain, whatever the brand. You definitely get what you pay for, if you want healthy birds with glossy plumage and quality eggs.
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Re: chicktec egg wash

Postby rick » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:41 pm

This is the label from a bag of Smallholder layers pellets. If you can find a local stockist it is a bit cheaper than from BHWT https://shop.bhwt.org.uk/collections/fe ... rs-pellets but the postage is free.
It's good stuff I think.
In my foolishness I once tried to formulate something similar in nutritional quality from basic ingredients. It is very difficult, expensive, requires a mill and impossible to know if it is actually right without a lab analysis. Getting that level of protein without offsetting other ingredients is hard. Notice also the added Vitamin D (so no need for cod liver oil.)
Dodson and Horrell are similar quality - just as good. I like the smaller pellet size of Smallholder.
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Re: chicktec egg wash

Postby Marigold » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:04 pm

Yes I think that's very similar, Rick. I decant new bags into my galvanised bin so didn't retain the label on D&H. Which makes me think - airtight storage in cool dry conditions, proof against contamination from rodents, birds and insects, is just as important. Feed degenerates very fast if left in opened bags.
Another good brand is Marriages see http://www.marriages.co.uk/products-poultry.php#poultry This uses non-GM ingredients as well.
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Re: chicktec egg wash

Postby Hen-Gen » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:06 am

Just as an addition though I'm sure it will have been said elsewhere Heygates do 5kg bags with Flubenvet wormer added and it is available from Amazon. Though Heygates is not a brand I would normally use for the week of medication necessary with Flubenvet this makes life very easy.
Now, if I could just wean my dog off of Orijen and onto a cheaper food!
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Re: chicktec egg wash

Postby Marigold » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:44 am

(Edit;) actually that Marriages link is interesting - I didn't know they produced such a range of feeds, including two grades of layers pellets, of different quality; one of them is an 'everyday' cheaper version, something to be aware of when comparing prices.
Steven (Dye) I see it includes quail mini pellets, if you spin on to the end of the listings.
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Re: chicktec egg wash

Postby bigyetiman » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:06 pm

We use Marriages, they are local to us and thats what our local farm shop stocks.
I must give the purple cabbage a go, they will think they are being spoilt getting a different colour one. We don't give ours treats either, although one girl who has discovered the pedal bin in the kitchen and how to use it would probably disagree if the door has been open and she has been on a raiding jaunt.
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