red mite

The place to discuss worms, mites, lice, rodents, wild birds, foxes, badgers, dogs etc.
User avatar
rick
Full Member
Posts: 1346
Joined: Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:52 pm

Re: red mite

Post by rick » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:28 pm

Yeah! You may have missed this bit before but you can use the smite powder as a sort of 'emulsion' by mixing it with water and painting it into the corners, cracks etc. That way it sticks there and doesn't move/blow around in the wind or when the hens are flapping around in the coop. Not having it as an airborne dust (at least not too much) is important as chickens are very susceptible to breathing problems/infections from fine airborne dust and that, believe it or not, can be a lot worse than having red mite!
Behind thin sheet on the walls of the shed is just the place where mite will hide. I would be very tempted to take it all off unless it left big holes in the sides.
Where are you? In the UK? As the temperature drops the mite will slow down and eventually stop their activity for the winter months. It's when the weather warms back up again in the spring that we will all need to be on the look out for them getting out of control again. Its good to leave just one hiding place near the perch in the coop - a piece of wood with a gap underneath or a rubber car mat - where you haven't put diatom powder and is easy to lift and check under. Then you will know straight away if they are still around or have returned.
dye29
Regular Forum Contributor / Laying Well
Posts: 170
Joined: Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:43 pm

Re: red mite

Post by dye29 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:46 pm

great im in north yorkshire so it is getting colder , ill try the paste mix then see how i get on thanks rick
User avatar
rick
Full Member
Posts: 1346
Joined: Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:52 pm

Re: red mite

Post by rick » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:24 pm

No problem! The only reason we know anything about it is by having the little red devils and doing battle with them! Except for Marigold, of course. They wouldn't dare!
How many hens have you got on your allotment?
Margaid
Full Member
Posts: 1054
Joined: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:27 pm

Re: red mite

Post by Margaid » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:37 am

Marigold wrote:
rick wrote:No one uses garden lime (hydrated lime) near animals Margaid. It's a powerful alkaline that would cause sever burns if they walked in it.
It sounds as if Dye does, Rick. Maybe not a good idea, Dye, as they have to walk through it to get to the perches?
I wasn't talking about Lime Rick (although you don't want to breathe that in!) I was referring back to the posts about Diatom. It's silica right? so you don't want to get it in your lungs unless you want to end up with silicosis.
dye29
Regular Forum Contributor / Laying Well
Posts: 170
Joined: Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:43 pm

Re: red mite

Post by dye29 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:22 am

i have 15 hens
User avatar
Marigold
Moderator
Posts: 5791
Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:27 pm

Re: red mite

Post by Marigold » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:24 am

I think you've been doing all you can, Dye, and I'm sure your efforts will be very helpful to the chickens. Removing the boarding on the walls will have helped enormously. The colder weather moving in will mean they're less active as well. Painting the surface of the walls won't do much because, as you know, the mites don't line up on flat open spaces, they choose cracks and crannies to hide in.

Does the shed have a felted roof? If so, the mites will be under the felt, where you can't get to them, and there's nothing you can do about that except to strip off the felt and old boards underneath and replace with green plastic corrugated sheets. These are better for a roof anyway as the corrugated edges let extra ventilation in at the top level, and being all one surface there's nowhere for the mites to hide.
dye29
Regular Forum Contributor / Laying Well
Posts: 170
Joined: Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:43 pm

Re: red mite

Post by dye29 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:27 pm

hey guys got some news yesterday i went to a agricultural shop where farmers get there items and got talking to a farmer which turned out to be a poultry mainly farmer , i asked him what he recommends for red mites as i believe farmers haven't got time to mess around with weak products and he said he never uses anything else but this Digrain Perbio Choc RTU Insecticide so i purchased a bottle you basically spray all over shed or hut NOT animals keep them away few hours , it smells very strong i used a mask while doing this . hopefully this will kill everything it claims to last upto 3 months and is oil based so will soak into wood and give off repellent . i will keep everyone informed and what are people views on this product if used or not
3441sussex
Forum Contributor / Grower
Posts: 61
Joined: Sat Aug 10, 2013 5:43 pm

Re: red mite

Post by 3441sussex » Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:42 pm

This is very strong stuff. Having read its Safety Data Sheet I would not advise using this product in a small chicken house. It is for use by trained professionals only.

Before you use it I suggest you find out if it will it react with the other red mite products that you have been using and how long you have got to keep your hens out of the house? Is there a egg withdrawal period and will eggs be tainted?
User avatar
Marigold
Moderator
Posts: 5791
Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2011 6:27 pm

Re: red mite

Post by Marigold » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:29 am

It will certainly have killed any red mite which it could touch - but, as everyone keeps saying, the problem is that they will have crept away into nooks and crannies, where a spray can't reach, and laid eggs in there, which will hatch sooner or later and start the cycle over again. If the product stays around as an oily skin on the woodwork, I suppose it could then kill any which crawl out on to it - but if it did this, I would be worried that the hens would also come into contact with it and absorb it into their blood streams as well.
How long did you shut the hens out of the coop? A commercial farmer may well use this stuff to clean up a large shed where all the hens have been sent to slaughter, before re-stocking with young birds, but I would imagine they leave it for longer than a few hours. In a small enclosed coop, the spray would linger as particles in the air for a long time, and the hens would breathe it in, with consequences for their health, and possibly it could be transmitted into their eggs. As you've already used the stuff, you'll just have to wait and see - but if they were mine, I wouldn't eat their eggs for quite a while - certainly during the three months it's supposed to be actively giving off fumes.
Did you buy a specialist mask which would exclude the particular sort of particles this stuff contains? The risk to your own health from strong chemical sprays is pretty high, and not worth it, in my opinion. Do make sure to wash your hair and all your clothing - professional operators would wear proper protective clothing and masks.
dye29
Regular Forum Contributor / Laying Well
Posts: 170
Joined: Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:43 pm

Re: red mite

Post by dye29 » Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:27 am

ive emailed company already as instructions on bottle are not very good , they say eggs are perfectly fine to eat and it will not harm birds at all just let the hut vent out few hours first , they also say its the oil based that stays around giving off a scent that stops mites coming out
Post Reply

Return to “Pests & Predators”