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Elderly Stock

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:56 am
by Hen-Gen
It would be really handy to run on some birds until they are four years old (both hens and cock) before breeding from them because of other projects. But I don't want to lose the strain. Has anyone bred from birds of this age, are they viable etc etc? I've never tried to breed from birds over three years of age before. I've been told that the hens are good for it but that cocks go downhill really quickly. What say you?

Re: Elderly Stock

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:25 am
by Marigold
Hen-Gen wrote: I've been told that the hens are good for it but that cocks go downhill really quickly. What say you?
Any cartoonists on here?

Re: Elderly Stock

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:49 am
by chrismahon
Breeding from elderly stock is a good idea as any latent weaknesses in the strain will have been weeded out. Breeding from young stock has the opposite effect and creates weaknesses which many have experienced with early deaths and poor laying.

We bred from our remaining Wyandotte hens at 6 years and had great results -11 hatched from 12 with one dead-in-shell. However our original cock died at 3 years and the next was infertile at 18 months. The replacement was less than a year old.

Breeding with a 4 year old leghorn cock resulted in just 50% egg fertility. So I would say that cocks go downhill quickly so you would need to plan for a replacement Hen-Gen, which means bringing one in from another breeder if necessary.

Re: Elderly Stock

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:27 pm
by Hen-Gen
Marigold wrote:
Hen-Gen wrote: I've been told that the hens are good for it but that cocks go downhill really quickly. What say you?
Any cartoonists on here?
Ahem! Look forward to it.

Thanks Chris. Suspected this might be the case. Worrying.

Re: Elderly Stock

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:31 pm
by rick
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Re: Elderly Stock

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:52 pm
by Icemaiden
Rick.
Your talents are never ending. :-)08

Re: Elderly Stock

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:27 am
by Marigold
Lovely! Thanks Rick!

Re: Elderly Stock

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:31 am
by Hen-Gen
Marigold wrote:Lovely! Thanks Rick!
Excellent rick, though I suspect not quite what Marigold had in mind!!! ;)

Re: Elderly Stock

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:08 pm
by rick
Best not!
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Could you just try one hatch now Hen-Gen, just to buy you more time?

Re: Elderly Stock

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:03 pm
by valeriebutterley
Is the bottle for vitamins or viagra?